Critics: Fox Cancellation Hurts Ties

Associated Press ^ | Thursday, August 15, 2002 | TRACI CARL

[Joe Brower]

Soon coming to a country near you...

[bok]

Mexico and their leech mentality has been an irritant and no great friend to the United States of America.

[jackbill]

`I think the president showed great statesmanship, because he listened to the voice of the people and to the voice of Congress,'' Varon said. ``When we have U.S. congressmen coming here complaining, the first thing I'm going to do is to say, `Respect our laws.'''

When in Rome, do as the Romans do. When in the United States, obey our freaking laws - or die.

[Dog Gone]

The Mexican politicians view the U.S. as the perfect whipping boy and have seized on this event to make political hay... most Mexicans aren't buying it.

That's the way I see it. The only people in Mexico who cared about this execution are the liberals who have run that country for generations. They run most of the newspapers and they control the legislature that has blocked Fox's attempts at reform every step of the way.

The average Mexican could care less about this executed murderer. It's not even clear he was born in Mexico. He certainly didn't grow up there or try to return.

I didn't think Fox would cancel this meeting, but he must have done so for domestic political reasons. It's entirely possible that both Bush and Fox decided that calling it off would give Fox more credibility at home, something he needs. We need it, too.

We had hoped that Fox's election ushered in a new era in Mexico, but the entrenched liberals who still control the legislature have prevented that dream. Bush had nothing to offer Fox at this meeting, and Fox had nothing to give. I don't think for a second that Fox cared about the execution.

Texas has executed Mexican nationals before, and it will do so again. This "protest" was all about something else.

[FITZ]

Fox is proving he's an Indian giver, he gives us people with strings attached.

[Dante3]

LOL

I see the cancellation as good for this country.

[NEWwoman]

bump.

[Dog Gone]

Despite what 99% of the people here at FR believe, it's not Fox's job to keep Mexicans in his country. It's our job to keep them out unless we want some in on our terms.

[Mr. Mojo]

Fox has struggled with a hostile Congress that has blocked his proposals or modified them beyond recognition and, in one case, prevented him from traveling to the United States

Too bad their Congress doesn't place similiar restrictions on the rest of their populace.

[FITZ]

It is Fox's job to do something about the horrible conditions there that makes 90% want to get out. It's not our job to provide for all their citizens they don't want. He should have nothing to say about our laws and policies.

[FITZ]

But I do agree with everything you wrote about the average Mexican doesn't care about the executed man. They'd rather have our kind of laws than the laws they have in Mexico, plus you look at cities like El Paso compared with Juarez, Fox has a lot of work as far as trying to get murder rates ---he should wonder why El Paso's murder rate is so low and Juarez's has one of the world's highest.

[hchutch]

This was more about political posturing by Fox.

It helps shut up the folks who accuse him of pandering too much to Bush (ironic he's dealing with folks like that, IMHO). Hopefully, Fox can get a better Mexican Congress, and he can get the reforms he wants passed. If he can do that, it might make things a lot easier for us.

[time4good]

My wife's from Mexico City - she's disgusted with Fox lately for 1. Not having the huevotes (read: guts) to stand up to the corrupt idiots and 2. Allowing his wife to push the foot-in-the-door beginning abortion legal manipulations.
Apparently, 500 guys bullied Fox from moving ahead with a new Airport (It needs one!!).

Hate to accept it but Fox/Bush are buds, and their soft-touch against the destructors/neysayers is similarly frustrating.

[Dog Gone]

It's not our job to provide for all their citizens they don't want. He should have nothing to say about our laws and policies.

You're right about the first part, but I could not care less what he has to say about our laws or policies. However, he is certainly free to comment on them, just as we do about theirs.

[07055]

Thanks for confirming what I thought when I posted this yesterday on another thread:

If he had done the same thing in Mexico, he would have been lined up against the wall and shot. No trial. No appeals. No "human rights" activists crying for him.

[FITZ]

Allowing his wife to push the foot-in-the-door beginning abortion legal manipulations

The wife was the first sign Fox wasn't what he claimed to be. He pretended to be a religious Catholic but apparently was seeing this woman while she was still married. I've heard his children don't much like her either. He thinks he's pretty slick though.

[FITZ]

just as we do about theirs

On here we might comment on them but unfortunately our leaders seem too grovelling and afraid to offend that oligarchy.

[PRND21]

I've heard his children don't much like her either. He thinks he's pretty slick though.

Are you his maid or something?

[B4Ranch]

Bush is probably going to apolgize for offending his friend for not stopping the drug dealers execution. If he was serious about anything, I think he would be serious about shutting off the big gateway to terrorists.....our Mexican border!

[FITZ]

Actually that's pretty well known in Mexico about his kids and his recently divorced wife.