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Clinton Admits: I Turned Down Bin Laden Extradition Offer
NewsMax.com ^ | 8/11/02 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 08/11/2002 12:09:53 AM PDT by kattracks

Mansour Ijaz, the Pakistani-American businessman who says he was rebuffed by the Clinton White House after negotiating a deal for the extradition of Osama bin Laden to the U.S. in 1996, has gained an important new witness who backs his story - none other than ex-President Clinton himself.

Former Clinton administration officials such as senior National Security Council aide Nancy Soderberg have described Ijaz as an unreliable witness. Former Clinton spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri recently slammed him as "a liar" and "a crackpot."

But a tape recording obtained exclusively by NewsMax.com shows Clinton himself confirming all the key points of his story.

In never-before-reported comments to a New York business group this past February, the ex-president never mentioned Mr. Ijaz by name. But the events he related parallel the freelance diplomat's story exactly.

"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan," Clinton explained to a February 15 Long Island Association luncheon.

"He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991 then he went to Sudan. And we'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start meeting with them again.

"They released him," the ex-president confirmed.

"At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

"So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, cause they could have," Clinton explained. "But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan."

Since last December, Mr. Ijaz has insisted that he negotiated the deal for bin Laden's release from Sudan. But he maintained that the White House declined to take advantage of the offer because of legal technicalities - a detail now confirmed by the ex-president.

Immediately, however, former Clinton officials trashed the bin Laden extradition story as an exaggeration at best - a complete fabrication at worst.

Asked to respond to Ijaz's account in January, ex-NSC aide Soderberg told Fox News Channel, "He's living in a fantasy land. There was no such Sudanese offer."

"He's lying," Ms. Palmieri, now chief spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee, said of Ijaz's story in May. "The guy has absolutely no credibility. You'll see that you never see him on television anymore once he was outed as being a fraud."

Mainstream reporters, apparently unaware of Clinton's February comments, have also trashed Mr. Ijaz's account.

In May, both New York Times reporter Judith Miller and NBC newswoman Andrea Mitchell told radioman Don Imus they declined to cover the bin Laden extradition story because they didn't find it credible.

Listen to excerpts from the bombshell Clinton speech the rest of the press ignored.

Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics:

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1 posted on 08/11/2002 12:09:54 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Clinton has never quite figured it out, that perhaps just once in a while, it might be better for him if he'd shut the ---- up!
2 posted on 08/11/2002 12:17:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
He can't, He has to keep talking about himself because he's afraid no one else will.
3 posted on 08/11/2002 12:25:50 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: DoughtyOne
Report: Mansour Ijaz, the Pakistani-American businessman who says he was rebuffed by the Clinton White House after negotiating a deal for the extradition of Osama bin Laden to the U.S. in 1996, has gained an important new witness who backs his story - none other than ex-President Clinton himself.

Clinton: At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

If Laden wasn't wanted by the United States for doing something against us, why did Mansour Ijaz even know who he was?  Did Ijaz have a silly habit of trying to arrange the extradition of unknowns to the US?  Somehow I doubt it.  Isn't it time for another "is = is" statement by Bill?

4 posted on 08/11/2002 12:27:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kattracks
Nobody else should. And I'm hoping that one day this nation's people will finally get their fill of him and his mrs., and extend to them the OJ treatment cubed.
5 posted on 08/11/2002 12:30:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne; Dog; Miss Marple; Alamo-Girl; W.
Excellent point you make in #4.

Can someone jog my memory? What did we know and when did we know it about a connection between OBL and the bombing of the WTC?

6 posted on 08/11/2002 12:42:22 AM PDT by kayak
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To: kayak
Wasn't he involved with Somalia and several African (continent) embassy bombings? I believe those were known in 1996. The first WTC bombing was attributed to that Moslem Cleric in NY if I remember correctly. Was he connected to Laden? I don't think so.
7 posted on 08/11/2002 12:48:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Clinton has never quite figured it out, that perhaps just once in a while, it might be better for him if he'd shut the ---- up!

Doesn't that seem a little odd for such a smart guy who's got no end of iron-clad and fang-toothed handlers?

I'm surprised he hasn't stepped up to the plate to take credit for the Yankee's World Series loss last year.

After all ... we're talking about a guy who issued his Own Personal Apology for Waco but weeks before Danforth cleared him entirely in his report issued November 8, 2000.

8 posted on 08/11/2002 12:54:13 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: DoughtyOne
The embassy bombings weren't until '98.

On August 7, 1998, a truck bomb destroyed the U.S. Embassy in Kenya. Moments later another truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. Embassy in Tanzania. The bombings killed 213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania. (sourced here)

He is thought to be complicit in the 1993 bombing of the WTC ...... but I'm not sure when the connection was made.

According to the US, Bin Laden was involved in at least three major attacks - the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the 1996 killing of 19 US soldiers in Saudi Arabia, and the 1998 bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. (sourced here)

9 posted on 08/11/2002 1:01:07 AM PDT by kayak
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To: kayak
This was on the radar in May of 1998.  I would think it was about the same as what as known in 1996, but that's conjecture.

Here's the LINK.

10 posted on 08/11/2002 1:02:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
The embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya were in 1998. Al-Zawahiri(maybe Bin Ladin too) has been indicted for those attacks. The CIA and FBI had to be after Bin Ladin in 1996 too but I don't recall for what. The first WTC attack?
11 posted on 08/11/2002 1:03:13 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: DoughtyOne
Was he connected to Laden? I don't think so.

He was connected to Bin Laden's right hand man that doctor from egypt.
12 posted on 08/11/2002 1:04:26 AM PDT by Brush_Your_Teeth
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To: kayak
. . . first time I remember Ossama bin Laden's name mentioned was when Orin Hatch held Senate hearings and warned about the man. I remember that it hit me out of the blue at the time, didn't know what to make of it.

13 posted on 08/11/2002 1:04:56 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: kayak
Ramsey Yosef was the cleric I was thinking of. He was arrested, and Laden was thought to have been the leasee of the place he was staying. Try the link to the ABC interview I provided. It's mentioned in there.

Good dates there. I thought those bombings were earlier.

14 posted on 08/11/2002 1:05:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kattracks; All
Cross-linking:

Bush and Clinton and 911- some facts...

15 posted on 08/11/2002 1:05:41 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: kayak
                  
 

                  Feds want to keep bin
                  Laden-Somalia link in trial

                  April 20, 2001
                  Web posted at: 4:32 p.m. EDT (2032
                  GMT)

                  LINK

                  From Phil Hirschkorn
                  CNN New York Bureau

                  NEW YORK (CNN) -- The defense
                  presentation in the embassy bombings
                  trial will pause Monday so federal
                  prosecutors can make their case that
                  Islamic militants loyal to Osama bin
                  Laden trained the Somali fighters who killed 18 American soldiers in 1993.

                  The charge, largely ignored in 10 weeks of trial testimony and evidence about
                  the August 7, 1998, bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, is one
                  the U.S. attorney has not dropped in a proposal for reduced charges submitted
                  to the trial judge.

                  In a one-day presentation, the government is expected to call an expert witness
                  from the U.S. military to sum up what happened in the Somalia capital of
                  Mogadishu on October 3, 1993.

                  On that day, a firefight resulting from a U.S.
                  Army raid to capture lieutenants of Somali tribal
                  leader Mohammed Farrah Aidid left 18 U.S.
                  soldiers dead.

                  The U.S. troops were in Somalia to assist a U.N.
                  mission distributing food and relief supplies and
                  restoring order to the war-torn nation. The United
                  Nations had put a bounty on Aidid after his men
                  ambushed and killed 24 Pakistani peacekeepers
                  that June.

                  A federal indictment accuses bin Laden and 21
                  others in a terrorist conspiracy to kill Americans
                  dating to the early 1990s. Four of those named in
                  the indictment have been on trial since January,
                  accused of roles in the embassy bombings, which
                  prosecutors say were the culmination of the
                  conspiracy. The two truck bombings killed 224
                  people, including 12 Americans.

                  Prosecutors completed their initial evidence
                  presentation to the jury on April 4 after calling
                  more than 90 witnesses.

                  On Thursday, at the request of U.S. District
                  Judge Leonard Sand, the U.S. attorney's office
                  submitted a revised indictment to simplify the
                  charges the jury will be asked to consider.

                  Assistant U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said in
                  court this week that one of the six terror
                  conspiracy charges -- plotting to attack U.S.
                  national defense facilities -- would be dropped and that the list of more than
                  150 overt acts alleged in the main conspiracy count would be reduced.

                  Copies of the revised indictment were under court seal, pending a court
                  conference scheduled Monday afternoon.

                  Fitzgerald has told Sand the actions alleged in Somalia will remain in the
                  government's case.

                  Defendant Mohamed Sadeek Odeh, 36, a Jordanian national, is the only
                  defendant in court directly implicated in Somalia. The indictment names Odeh
                  as one of seven known members of bin Laden's group, al Qaeda, who trained
                  Somali tribes.

                  Aside from the unforeseen casualties, the U.S. military action on October 3,
                  1993, "was a success," according to a memo by Maj. Gen. William Garrison,
                  the commanding officer. "The targeted individuals were captured." More than
                  500 Somalis died from the battle.

                  Aidid died in 1996, his son Hussein succeeding him as tribal leader and de facto
                  president, although Somalia had no central government until last year. A
                  peace-brokered parliament installed last summer elected a new president,
                  Abdiqasim Salad Hasan, to a transitional three-year term.

                  The three men now on trial in New York along with Odeh are Mohamed
                  Rashed Daoud al-'Owhali, 24, a Saudi; Khalfan Khamis Mohamed, 27, a
                  Tanzanian; and Wadih el Hage, 40, a naturalized American.

                  None of the defendants are expected to testify. The defense is expected to
                  rest at the end of next week.

16 posted on 08/11/2002 1:12:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Askel5
It's a wonder I don't have an ulcer. ; )
17 posted on 08/11/2002 1:17:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: backhoe
Thank you.
18 posted on 08/11/2002 1:19:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kattracks
                 Excerpt:  LINK to full article

                 In Sudan, bin Laden appeared to concentrate on
                 switching gears. He reportedly built a road from Khartoum
                 to Port Sudan on the Red Sea, and apparently farmed.
                 Plenty of Afghans came to join him.
                      Bin Laden was certainly close to Egyptian radical
                 groups based in Khartoum — among them, Islamic Jihad.
                 Through an organization he funded in London, bin Laden
                 continued to call for radical change in Saudi Arabia. But
                 after years of continued criticism of the Saudi royal family,
                 his own family disowned him.
                      In 1992, bin Laden claimed responsibility for attempting
                 to bomb U.S. soldiers in Yemen, and again for attacks in
                 Somalia in 1993.
                      By 1994, the Saudis wanted bin Laden out of their back
                 yard. The Americans joined them in putting pressure on the
                 Sudanese to expel him.
                      He left Sudan for Afghanistan in the spring of 1996, by
                 which time he had been identified in a State Department
                 report as “a major financier of terrorism.”

19 posted on 08/11/2002 1:34:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Here's an interesting time line regarding OBL .....

Osama bin Laden: A Chronology of His Life

A couple of very interesting items

...... Spring 1996 - President Clinton signed a top secret order that authorized the CIA to use any and all means to destroy bin Laden's network.

.....June 25, 1996 - A large truck bomb devastates the US military residence in Dhahran called Khobar Towers, killing 19 servicemen. The US military initially linked bin Laden to the attack but now believe a Saudi Shiite group was responsible (Source: Washington Post 8/23/98). U.S. investigators still believe bin Laden was somehow involved.

20 posted on 08/11/2002 1:36:08 AM PDT by kayak
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