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US Planned To Drop An Atomic Bomb On Europe During WWII
The Memory Hole ^ | August 10, 2002

Posted on 08/10/2002 3:43:33 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest

US Planned to Drop an Atomic Bomb
on Europe During WWII

In early August 2002 Studs Terkel interviewed Paul Tibbets, the pilot who flew the Enola Gay on its mission to nuke Hiroshima. In the middle of this fascinating interview, General Tibbets dropped a bombshell of a different sort. Tibbets relates that after being briefed about his upcoming mission by General Uzal Ent (commander of the second air force) and others:

General Ent looked at me and said, "The other day, General Arnold [commander general of the army air corps] offered me three names." Both of the others were full colonels; I was lieutenant-colonel. He said that when General Arnold asked which of them could do this atomic weapons deal, he replied without hesitation, "Paul Tibbets is the man to do it." I said, "Well, thank you, sir." Then he laid out what was going on and it was up to me now to put together an organisation and train them to drop atomic weapons on both Europe and the Pacific--Tokyo.

Studs Turkel: Interesting that they would have dropped it on Europe as well. We didn't know that.

Paul Tibbets: My edict was as clear as could be. Drop simultaneously in Europe and the Pacific because of the secrecy problem--you couldn't drop it in one part of the world without dropping it in the other.

This is the last thing Tibbets says about nuking Europe, and Turkel never follows up! Thus, we don't know which city was to be targeted (presumably it was a German one) or why the plan wasn't carried out. The Memory Hole has written to Tibbets, asking these logical follow-up questions. Assuming he responds, we'll let you know what he says.

Later in the interview, Tibbets reveals another important piece of hidden history--that the US was just about to drop a third atomic bomb on Japan when it surrendered:

Studs Terkel: Why did they drop the second one, the Bockscar [bomb] on Nagasaki?

Paul Tibbets: Unknown to anybody else--I knew it, but nobody else knew--there was a third one. See, the first bomb went off and they didn't hear anything out of the Japanese for two or three days. The second bomb was dropped and again they were silent for another couple of days. Then I got a phone call from General Curtis LeMay [chief of staff of the strategic air forces in the Pacific]. He said, "You got another one of those damn things?" I said, "Yessir." He said, "Where is it?" I said, "Over in Utah." He said, "Get it out here. You and your crew are going to fly it." I said, "Yessir." I sent word back and the crew loaded it on an airplane and we headed back to bring it right on out to Trinian and when they got it to California debarkation point, the war was over.

Studs Terkel: What did General LeMay have in mind with the third one?

Paul Tibbets: Nobody knows.

Source: "'One Hell of a Big Bang'" by Studs Terkel. Guardian (London), 6 Aug 2002.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: historylist
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1 posted on 08/10/2002 3:43:33 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Roosevelt from what I understand during the Battle of the Bulge pressured scientists to speed up the bomb's development. I don't doubt after what happened at Dresden he would have hesitated to use it in Europe.
2 posted on 08/10/2002 3:43:54 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
It's probably too late now, right?
3 posted on 08/10/2002 3:46:04 PM PDT by gitmo
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
The Germans were occupying France?

Just a thought.
4 posted on 08/10/2002 3:48:28 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Maybe I've forgotten my history, but didn't the Krauts surrender on 8 May 45 and the first successful test was at Alamagordo, NM in July? A little late...unless..unless...that old bastard Patton was intending to take it to the Soviets.
5 posted on 08/10/2002 3:52:52 PM PDT by x1stcav
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To: Jemian
The Germans were occupying France?

Just think: Glow in the dark surrender monkeys

6 posted on 08/10/2002 3:53:47 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: x1stcav
Maybe I've forgotten my history, but didn't the Krauts surrender on 8 May 45 and the first successful test was at Alamagordo, NM in July?

This is true, which is why I don't doubt if the US had the bomb before the war ended in Europe, Roosevelt would have used it. Too bad though Russia wasn't made to leave Eastern Europe, we had the power to make them and didn't use it.

7 posted on 08/10/2002 3:56:36 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
It's never too late ...
8 posted on 08/10/2002 3:56:47 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
ST: One last thing, when you hear people say, "Let's nuke 'em," "Let's nuke these people," what do you think?

PT: Oh, I wouldn't hesitate if I had the choice. I'd wipe 'em out. You're gonna kill innocent people at the same time, but we've never fought a damn war anywhere in the world where they didn't kill innocent people. If the newspapers would just cut out the shit: "You've killed so many civilians." That's their tough luck for being there.

Studs certainly didn't get the answer he wanted there and backed off real fast! Terkel is one of the bigger phonies that you'll come across.
9 posted on 08/10/2002 3:56:48 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: x1stcav
first successful test was at Alamagordo, NM in July?

16 Jul 1945.
10 posted on 08/10/2002 3:58:07 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; Fred Mertz; Joe Montana; DoughtyOne; Judicial Watch; Carl/NewsMax
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11 posted on 08/10/2002 3:58:15 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Chi-townChief
Studs certainly didn't get the answer he wanted there and backed off real fast! Terkel is one of the bigger phonies that you'll come across.

Nonsense. Despite his hard left politics, Studs Terkel is one of the best interviewers alive. He lets the other fellow talk, rather than argue with him or pass judgment. This was first-rate work.

12 posted on 08/10/2002 3:59:43 PM PDT by ArcLight
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
We all have to remember that Studs Terkel is a leftist that did some decent work (Brother Have You Got a Dime?; The Last Good War) but usually with that slant. I can't figure out what he is up to here because it, the timing issue, is simply off.
13 posted on 08/10/2002 4:01:03 PM PDT by x1stcav
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To: gitmo

14 posted on 08/10/2002 4:03:50 PM PDT by A. Morgan
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Please, please think about doing this now.

Q. why do they ban fireworks at the tour De France?
A. Cause everytime they went off, the French riders would surrender.

15 posted on 08/10/2002 4:04:50 PM PDT by Drango
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To: gitmo
It's probably too late now, right?

Great yukk!

16 posted on 08/10/2002 4:05:30 PM PDT by dodger
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To: gitmo
(small snicker go here)
17 posted on 08/10/2002 4:06:37 PM PDT by A. Morgan
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To: gitmo
It's probably too late now, right?

My thoughts exactly!

18 posted on 08/10/2002 4:06:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Don't they call articles like this "revisionist history"?
19 posted on 08/10/2002 4:06:48 PM PDT by gitmogrunt
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
This is pure bullshat damn conspiracy theory crap so whats next the enola gay is really a time machine for the NWO /sheesh/
20 posted on 08/10/2002 4:08:32 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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