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How can a person be "Free" without having the "Freedom to renouce that Freedom"?
1 posted on 08/04/2002 9:06:30 AM PDT by vannrox
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It saddens me that these creative Americans are not allowed back into the motherland. Two remedial suggestions: (1) pay Clinton the necessary bribe to get a backdated exception/pardon and he'll arrange to have one of his flunkies slip it under an INS stack of paper waiting to be processed, or, (2) pay Mrs. Dashole the necessary amount and she'll arrange to have her contacts in the Senate enact the required legislation. I, personnal, like number two because it has the added advantage of perfect anonymity; the client's name will never be known (tax returns are ABSOLUTELY secret) and, if it did, the media would never publish it.
2 posted on 08/04/2002 9:16:04 AM PDT by Tacis
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The congress has become a disdgusting cesspool of corruption and deceit. It it operates often in secret.

Especially the Senate - horrible.

These people do not represent "freedom", they work for the "master", the Central Bank, and it's backers and pay "lip service" to the "people".

The country has become "Of the special interests, for the special interests, and by the special interest", and the election system is so rigged it will be very difficult to changed this.

The money is almost without value, and with the vast increase in the money supply during Greenspan, money is about to become almost worthless.

Far from being in "recovery" we are still descending into the quagmire, and the DOW will go well below 6000 before we see a "recovery". The Real Estate bubble will bust soon.

We are, as a people, in deep do do and it will take decades to correct, if it ever does get corrected. Meanwhile, here comes a police state the likes of which no one on earth, save perhaps the Romans circa 495ad, have ever seen before.

Welcome to a world we all desrerve for failing to live up to our fouinding ideals. The sin of the fathers, etc.
4 posted on 08/04/2002 9:37:33 AM PDT by RISU
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These are not US citizens. I don't mind regulating their entry and exit from the US. The rules should be applied equally to the peasant from Mexico and the millionaire from the Bahamas however.
5 posted on 08/04/2002 10:01:43 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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Those who renounce their US citizenship should go to the bottom of the list of those wanting to get into this country. Their applications for visas can be handled by INS after INS has caught up on all its other duties, including the catching and expulsion of every illegal alien now here.
7 posted on 08/04/2002 10:27:42 AM PDT by per loin
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Congress passed a law in 1995 which makes expatriates liable for ten years of income tax following their departure.

Congress can pass all the tax laws it wants against expats. Once the expat is out of the U.S., the Federal Government can go pound sand because its laws do not transcend into another country.

10 posted on 08/04/2002 11:20:15 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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Under the new law, the taxpatriate-any expatriate for that matter-must apply for a visa for every visit. The law states that the U.S. Attorney General may prohibit the issuance of a visa to a former U.S. citizen if there are solid grounds to believe that citizenship was renounced in order to avoid taxes.

A taxpatriate can re-enter the U.S. any time he wants without a visa. Illegal aliens do it every day. If he is caught by U.S. federal authorities (fat chance) all they will do is simply send him back to his new home country.

15 posted on 08/04/2002 12:13:45 PM PDT by usadave
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Thanks for posting this article, vannrox.

It is an excellent article.  I have actually read it before, and have quoted from it in articles that I have written for the Action America web site, where we have several articles on this subject.  In fact, I have quoted from the other article that you posted a while ago, as well, "The New Refugees."

I encourage anyone who is reading this thread to click on the above link and read the FR posting of "The New refugees", as well.  They are both as appropriate today as when they were written.

To give you a good idea of how big this type of capital flight has become, I suggest that you look at the links page of The Sovereign Society, at http://64.23.55.231/vmembers.php?sec=osweb and follow some of the links provided there.  Notice how many different businesses there are that make a living helping wealthy people to leave.  Notice how many web sites there are.  Notice how many paper magazines exist in that market.  In fact, indications are that roughly 100,000 Americans left the United States last year, for more wealth friendly climates.  Before long, there won't be enough wealth here to pay all the taxes and it's our laws that is causing the whole thing.

 

18 posted on 08/05/2002 12:04:21 AM PDT by Action-America
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