[Palladin]

It's hard to believe that you are a Vietnam vet AND an Episcopalian....and that you would reference such an ugly, vicious site about our First Lady. It's totally irrelevant to the subject at hand.

Do you drink, in the early afternoon?

[meandog]

You've missed the point, my friend. The point is that despite what some ultra-right FReepers believe, good parents sometimes have trouble with their youngsters. Take "Hillary's Lovely Legs" opinion, for instance:
There is a lot a parent can do. A parent can be a parent from the day the child is born and set down rules to be followed or else there are consequences. A parent says be home at midnight, you are home at midnight. You break the curfew you face punishment. It's not too tough unless you are a crappy parent. " Kids are going to do what the want" is no argument. It's lousy parenting...
Now, am I to assume that the Bushes are lousy, crappy parents or (like but not near as bad as Bill and Hill) a lousy president and first lady?