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Normalization of Pedophilia Growing, Experts Say
Family News in Focus ^ | July 30, 2002 | Steve Jordahl

Posted on 07/30/2002 6:22:06 PM PDT by CalConservative

Normalization of Pedophilia Growing, Experts Say
By Steve Jordahl, correspondent

Americans are accepting a more liberal — and previously unthinkable — notion of sexuality. The next taboo to fall might be the sexual exploitation of children.

In what is described as a dangerous trend, Carson Holloway of the University of Nebraska believes the normalization of pedophilia is emerging as a topic of discussion among the academic elite.

"There is some evidence of some effort to normalize pedophilia or sexual relations between adults and children in certain literary circles and maybe certain realms of science and social commentary," Holloway said.

According to Holloway, pedophilia is the misguided natural extension of removing the moral component from human sexuality.

"The reason it's off limits to children, traditionally, is because they can't fully yet distinguish between what's proper and what's improper, or what's moral and what's immoral," Holloway said. "But, of course, they can distinguish between what's pleasant and what's not pleasant. So, if pleasure is the only thing at stake in sex, then why should it be off limits to children?"

Peter Sprigg, of the Family Research Council, said if the idea that a culture could accept pedophilia seems unthinkable, take a look at from where we've come.

"We've come to an acceptance of premarital sex that we never had before, and then we've come to an acceptance of homosexual sex that we've never had before, and the next, the next frontier of sexual liberation is pedophilia."

But simply passing more restrictive laws isn't the answer, according to Sprigg.

"We have to win people's hearts and minds first before we can get back to the point of enshrining those principles in law."

Sprigg said that society must be able to place obligations on behavior, even among consenting adults.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: children; homosexualagenda; pedophilia; prisoners; sasu; sex; sexualexploitation
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It just keeps happening.
1 posted on 07/30/2002 6:22:06 PM PDT by CalConservative
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To: *SASU; *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform
bump
2 posted on 07/30/2002 6:23:06 PM PDT by CalConservative
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To: CalConservative
Howdy

OK, alright, we have let barbarians run amok for a generation. Our tolerance and equanymity are frequently impugned, but without merit, the boomers have had a heck of a party.

Our objections have always been that disregarding the lessons of history and discarding the Christian foundations would bring about early death and rampant victimization. Not victimization at the hands of someone elses opinion, but the rape and murder of innocents.

They were wise to lie to us like Hitler did that we would be safer unarmed and naked before their assault, but there the librals failed.

Perhaps the authorities will declare open season upon murderous, predatory pedophiles.

Maybe it will get to the point that we have to do it ourselves. We should pray it is not necessary while we give praise that we still have the means.

3 posted on 07/30/2002 6:28:58 PM PDT by MoscowMike
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To: CalConservative
It's time to kill evil.
4 posted on 07/30/2002 6:35:44 PM PDT by marvlus
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To: CalConservative
These people just better hope and pray that when the backlash happens, and it will, that it doesn't involve stakes and bonfires.
5 posted on 07/30/2002 6:41:44 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: CalConservative
"There is some evidence of some effort to normalize pedophilia — or sexual relations between adults and children — in certain literary circles and maybe certain realms of science and social commentary,"

A nambla pipe-dream. Some evidence? Some effort? In certain circles? And maybe certain realms? jeez.

6 posted on 07/30/2002 7:01:34 PM PDT by woofer
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To: CalConservative
 
Sprigg said that society must be able to place
obligations on behavior, even among consenting adults.

So we jump from pedophilia to sex
between consenting adults, then begin
the tiresome lifestyle police mantra.
I notice Sprigg has 'prig' built right in.
Priceless.

7 posted on 07/30/2002 7:08:26 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: CalConservative
This is just one of the doors opened by radical homosexual activists. They have also opened doors for those who practice sadomasochism, bestiality, incest and even polyamory(where a group of sexually devaint people cohabitate in a long term "tribe" or "family.")to crawl out from under their rocks and say that their wrong lifestyle choices are happy, normal and healthy.
8 posted on 07/30/2002 7:09:53 PM PDT by Commander8
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To: CalConservative
"We have to win people's hearts and minds first before we can get back to the point of enshrining those principles in law."

Not a chance!!!!!!! Other than being sick, gross, selfish and without respect for anything other than their own sick desires - it is child abuse. They might remember this when they delve into child porn thinking it will not cause them harm.

They forget children are people who also have rights.

10 posted on 07/30/2002 7:40:29 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Question_Assumptions
These people just better hope and pray that when the backlash happens, and it will, that it doesn't involve stakes and bonfires.

Wish I shared that conviction. There's something about the "genie out of the bottle" theory that strikes me as all too true. In the Blue Zone, right now, "normal" behavior is what would have been considered shocking and dismaying only a few years ago. Just look at the public commentary on the Van Dam family--the California swingers who were busily holding an orgy (or recovering from one) when their little girl was murdered. Over and over again, the words of their publicist are echoed: These people were merely pursuing their own dreams, and who can say that's wrong? Societies do collapse, and this one seems to me to be moving swiftly toward self-inflicted ruin.

11 posted on 07/30/2002 7:45:19 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: ClancyJ
"We have to win people's hearts and minds first before we can get back to the point of enshrining those principles in law."

I think Sprigg is referring to the populace as a whole not the perverts. A brief glance at what gay activists have managed to accomplish by arguing that gay civil rights are analagous to the same thing as civil rights for "people of color" has been extremely effective in changing large amounts of public opinion. What would've been unacceptable only ten years ago is now supported by a large number of people. Just some examples: domestic partner status in companies, statutes including sexual-orientation under the same protective status as race, religion and national origin, gay sensitivity courses and policies in public education including grammar school, the push for gay marriages and of course we all know the boy scouts are bigots because they discriminate against homosexuals. By the way, the New Jersey Supreme court found the Boy Scouts guilty of violating the state's anti-discrimination laws because of their stance regarding homosexuality. If one was to go out and do a simple poll of people at work let's say, you'll probably find that more than 50% have bought the Lie that homosexuality is somewhat analagous to race and so it makes perfect sense that the Boy Scouts banning Gays is as wrong as if they banned Blacks. That's why you have to change hearts and minds because people have bought into these lies. At one time, it was you should show tolerance and acceptance which to most right-thinking people made a lot of sense. But look at what's evolved in such a short time from that. As for pedophiles, hell it's just an alternative livestyle. What could possibly be wrong with that. Recently in Britain they lowered the age of consent to 16 for homosexuals. And for gay activists in this country lowering the age of consent is right up top there with gay marriage. If they can get passed those obstacles they're home free. A few years back there was a proposition on Colorado's ballot. It actually passed but was later declared unconstitutional, I think by the Colorado Supreme Court. The gist of the proposition was to prevent municipalities from grouping gays under the same non-discriminary laws which applied to race etc. The interesting thing was the proposition classified homosexuality as a perversion along with sado-masochism, bestiality, pedophilia and a few others that I can't quite remember. My newspaper printed an editorial about how wrong this was because indeed sado-masochism, bestiality, and pedophilia were perversions, but homosexuality wasn't a perversion, it was a sexual-orientation. My reaction was boy! we really established the truth there haven't we. And I thought of the wise man who asked someone, "If I decided to call a sheep's tail a leg then how many legs would a sheep have?" The person responded,"five." To this the wiseman said, "Wrong--four; just because I choose to call a sheep's tale a leg doesn't necessarilly make it so." The gay activists have been very good at convincing people that a sheep's tail is a leg.
12 posted on 07/30/2002 8:51:26 PM PDT by Coeur de Lion
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To: woofer
Exactly. This sounds almost more like propaganda to create the result discussed in the article rather than reporting on something actually happening.
13 posted on 07/30/2002 9:32:23 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: Free Vulcan
This says it all:believes the normalization of pedophilia is emerging as a topic of discussion among the academic elite.
14 posted on 07/30/2002 9:50:11 PM PDT by GailA
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To: CalConservative
Hey, it's a matter of status. Why can't two loving individuals hook up and be One? It's so hip, so Now. The wave of the future.
15 posted on 07/30/2002 10:04:47 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: GailA
ie: Marxist radicals. The elitists who think they are above the law.
16 posted on 07/30/2002 10:18:18 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: CalConservative
This is why our Founders said up front, that only a moral Christian society would keep American society from destruction. Most every thinking person knew when homosexuality came out of the closet, pedophilia would be quickly out of the closet door.

A person can be moral, and not claim Christianity, but it's harder for them to maintain because their conscience is their guide, and a persons conscience can and will ultimately excuse a person anything he wants to do badly enough. His moral compass can be worn down by the pressure of society and government into being tolerant of those actions and the people who do them, who will in reality never tolerate the moral. Christianity is based on pleasing God, not self, it's not for sissies, it's easier to just go along and be self centered, it takes effort and sacrifice to deny self, to stand apart. It takes a certain amount of guts to say, this is wrong, it's bad for a healthy society.

People with no morals hate and are bigoted towards those who do have and maintain them. The very fact that there are some things a person won't do, is a glaring rebuke to those for whom nothing is too low. The base man prefers everyone down at his level. Like the alcholic that doesn't like to drink alone. These "elite" scholars, whose foolishness should be laughed to scorn, instead influence our youth, tenure is worse than Federal employees that can't be fired.

17 posted on 07/30/2002 10:45:17 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: CalConservative; lentulusgracchus; Clint N. Suhks; scripter; L.N. Smithee; Buffalo Bob; SiKKuS; ...
""There is some evidence of some effort to normalize pedophilia — or sexual relations between adults and children — in certain literary circles and maybe certain realms of science and social commentary," Holloway said."

Actually, there's quite a bit of evidence. For example:

Molesters Inc.

"Aided by a growing cache of pedophilia advocacy disguised as research, child molesters may be on their way to breaking down traditional social values and gaining the same special rights afforded homosexual activists.

And that’s what they’re aiming for.

“The game plan is to create a body of studies that indicate adult-child sex is harmless or its danger has been overstated,” said Robert H. Knight, director of Concerned Women for America’s Culture and Family Institute. “They’re using the idea of objectivity itself to batter moral concerns. They are following the script of homosexual activists..."


CHILDREN: "THE NEXT SEXUAL FRONTIER"

"A new book that says child molesters are not a major peril to children is part of a larger movement within academia to promote "free sexual expression of children."

The movement to legitimize sex between adults and children is "gathering steam," warns Stephanie Dallam, researcher for the Leadership Council for Mental Health, Justice and the Media in Philadelphia, an organization that deals with prevention and treatment of child abuse. "Some people view children as the next sexual frontier," Ms. Dallam says..."


Some quotes from the The Pedophilia/Pedophile Education Web Site Mirror:

"Pedophilia is a sexual-orientation, like heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, etc..."

"It is well-known that several famous persons were pedophiles. For example, the philosopher Plato, is thought to have been one. A pedophile can literally be just about anyone you know... Currently, pedophiles do not even remotely enjoy the same kinds of legal protection that other scapegoated groups (i.e. jews, gays, blacks, etc.) enjoy. Pedophiles often have tough and unhappy lives, since they are not permitted to express who they are... Realize that pedophiles are not going away! A person cannot change his/her orientation any more than a dalmation can avoid spots. Despite eons of attempts to "cure" pedophilia, no such remedy has yet been found..."

"A movement against pedophiles (who are a VERY small minority) is underway on the net. Free speech right must be held up, but sadly there are people too ignorant to see past their hate and who endorse the idea of us being banned from the web... Free web page sites like Geocities have already responded to the pressure of these Fascists by shutting down websites advocating "boy love", while hypocritically leaving up gay-lesbian homepages, and even proudly listing them as members of the community!..."

"The bottom line is pedophiles must no longer be victims of hate-crimes and censorship for their beliefs. We must unite and stand against intolerance until we are accepted like gays are. My being a pedophile is simply a sexual-orientation, nothing more. It has complications due to the guilt applied by society to pedophiles and kids, but it is still not my fault I am a pedophile-even if it is my choice. It is possible pedophilia is genetic, or it may simply be learned behavior, but in any case, I and others like me should not be attacked or flamed for our beliefs. We cannot help what we are, any more than you can!..."

Myth # 4 "Pedophilia is a mental illness"

"No more than homosexuality is! It is a sexual-orientation and a way of life, nothing more. The typical pedophile is a sane, upstanding member of society. He/she is no more crazy than you are. They do not belong in institutions-they need understanding."

Myth # 7 "Pedophilia is always treatable"

"It is NEVER truly treatable. One is who one is. I will always be a pedophile..."

"It is time for a new beginning. Pedophiles should be active in the community to educate the masses on this lifestyle. This is currently very hard to do, but it has to happen sometime. Hopefully, pedophiles will be able to personally inform children inside elementary schools about pedophiles & who they REALLY are. We need classes for this purpose where pedophiles show kids in school that we are not child molesters. We can teach them the truth that other misguided adults will not reveal..."

"This is the Pedophile Credo or Constitution. It supports who we are without apology, and stresses self-acceptance and other child-loving awareness. Read it and learn by heart! Supporters of the PLA (Pedophile Liberation Army) must read this document and defend it... [1..40]... Those were the 40 basic commandments for all pedophiles to live by. One day we will have equal rights under the law, but only if you stand up and refuse to be a victim! This is a war and we need to win it at all costs. Fight ignorance and hate. Pedophiles unite! Pedophiles must organize! Pedophiles must act with one voice... Join the PLA today!..."


Notice the similarities between the Pedophile Agenda and the Homosexual Agenda?


Children: The Next Sexual Sacrifice

"Pedophilia Chic" Reconsidered - The taboo against sex with children continues to erode

On Positive Reports of Adult-Child Relationships: Taking a Closer Look

Is Pedophilia Really Being Normalized?

The Problem of Pedophilia

On the Pedophilia Issue: What the APA Should Have Known

More on the Pedophilia Question

Pedophiles Argue their Case in the Journal of Homosexuality

"Sex between men and boys is the foundation of homosexuality." - 1992 editorial in The San Francisco Sentinel.

Meet 'Women's Auxiliary of NAMBLA'

18 posted on 07/31/2002 7:07:49 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: CalConservative
bttt
19 posted on 07/31/2002 7:37:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: EdReform
The creeps are coming for YOUR children. Time for enforced neutering.
20 posted on 07/31/2002 7:44:44 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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