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Beware of high-fat litigation: Limbaugh slams court case pandering to victimhood, stupidity
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 07/30/2002 12:06:07 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Is any claim too ridiculous to be entertained by American courts? The latest outrage – a class action suit by fast-food foragers against the beguiling burger behemoths – should make Jerry Springer proud, if not jealous.

Caesar Barber is the lead plaintiff in a lawsuit brought in a New York state court against McDonald's Corp., Burger King Corp., Wendy's International and KFC Corp. The claimants allege these chains injured them by enticing them (through deceptive advertising) to eat their "unhealthy" products.

Mr. Barber, who frequented fast food restaurants four to five times a week before his first heart attack, says he was taken in by the fraudulent marketing. "They said, '100 percent beef.' I thought that meant it was good for you," said Barber, presumably not trying to be funny. "Those people in the advertisements don't really tell you what's in the food. It's all fat, fat and more fat. Now, I'm obese." (Maybe he should consider suing his parents instead for withholding the smart gene.)

Barber's lawyer, Samuel Hirsch, also, I assume, in complete seriousness, reportedly said the burgers create a de facto addiction, or a "craving," especially in kids (ah, yes, we must always mention the children) and the poor.

"There is direct deception when someone omits telling people food digested is detrimental to their health," said Hirsch. Yes, and there's direct stupidity when someone has to be told that burgers and fries are a high-fat option.

We can't just dismiss these claims out of hand – at least not until the judge dismisses them out of court. They are an inevitable consequence of our society's increasing trend toward victimhood and the erosion of individual responsibility.

With capitalism itself presently under attack because of the several high profile corporate scandals, we must take seriously further efforts to assault our free market system. So, we should listen when Mr. Hirsch says, "he hopes the lawsuit will force the fast-food industry to offer a greater variety to consumers, including vegetarian meals, smaller sizes and meals with fewer grams of fat."

I guess it would be too much trouble for these victims to go to other restaurants that offer "healthier" alternatives or to eat at home. Nah, why do that when you can file suit and save yourself the trouble of doing all those dishes?

Do you understand what the barrister is advocating here? In effect, he's hoping that the specter of onerous litigation will bully these restaurants into offering products that his clients want (or more accurately, that their doctors recommend), even if they aren't profitable.

I mean, we consumers, after all, do get what we (collectively) want in a free market system, do we not? For example, McDonald's, on its own, offered a lower fat burger for a while called the "McLean." But they had to remove it from the menu because their customers, on the whole, wouldn't support it. It was their choice. They spoke with their (absence of) dollars. I suppose Mr. Hirsch and his litigants, in the mold of a Russian Commissar, would tell McDonald's that they have no business listening to their customers and must offer these products even if no one buys them. Perhaps the next step will be legislation forcing us to eat them.

And, according to Neal D. Barnard, M.D., president of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, this could just be the first in a series of lawsuits. The PCRM says that some doctors – those who prescribe high-protein diets – could be next. "Given the many health risks associated with meat-heavy, high-protein diets, doctors who prescribe them could be assuming serious legal risk," said Mindy Kursban, PCRM's chief legal counsel.

Not too long ago, I would have been confident that such preposterous lawsuits would be summarily dismissed, but not any longer – not in the current climate of million dollar verdicts against McDonalds for selling hot coffee and people feeling sorry for young adults orphaned after murdering their parents.

We must understand that the problem is not just trial lawyers preying on society – though more than a few of them are. They can't file suit without willing plaintiffs, and they can't sustain their cases without receptive judges and sympathetic juries.

Sadly, these plaintiffs, judges and juries are simply a reflection of a society that has lost its fundamental appreciation for liberty and is following an inexorable path toward forfeiting all of it.


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Tuesday, July 30, 2002

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1 posted on 07/30/2002 12:06:07 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Mark my words - if this suit and those like it go forward, we will soon start seeing articles about how "experts" have discovered that soft drinks (both regular and diet) are responsible for all sorts of health horrors. Then, lo and behold, the lawsuits will start against Pepsi and Coca Cola, and yet another industry with deep pockets will be set up to be plundered. After that, who knows? Coffee? Let's see what we can squeeze from old Juan Valdez. Chocolate? Those M&M guys sure have beady eyes....
2 posted on 07/30/2002 1:12:52 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom
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To: Mygirlsmom
The first of a wave of "hold muh beer" lawsuits. If it weren't so baseless, it would be downright funny.
3 posted on 07/30/2002 1:21:11 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
About as "funny" as suing tobacco?

About as "funny" as suing gun manufacturers?

About as "funny" as suing local taverns?

Shakespeare said a mouthful when he said, "First, kill all the lawyers".

4 posted on 07/30/2002 1:30:49 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: DCPatriot
These people are a sad joke. Remember that tobacco shakedown? Now almost all the state governments have burned through their tobacco slush funds and the thing is not one dime of it went to compensate the alleged victims. The scam was good while it lasted. I just hope people see this high fat lawsuit as an attempt to line lawyers' pockets. And no, it won't make the obese victims one bit thinner in their waist line.
5 posted on 07/30/2002 1:34:56 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
We must understand that the problem is not just trial lawyers preying on society – though more than a few of them are. They can't file suit without willing plaintiffs, and they can't sustain their cases without receptive judges and sympathetic juries.

The juries in these cases that make me despair for our nation’s future. If the nation as a whole as bought in to this philosophy of victimhood, or if the people believe that corporations should protect us from ourselves then freedom is truly dead.

6 posted on 07/30/2002 4:20:25 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: JohnHuang2
I never would have guessed that when I take a bite out of a Burger King Whopper, that all that grease and mayo running down my chin could mean that it's not good for me!

Mark
7 posted on 07/30/2002 4:28:57 AM PDT by MarkL
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To: Pontiac
The juries in these cases that make me despair for our nation’s future.

And herein lies the problem - juries. We haven't paid enough attention to the jury system and how its run. Jurors are paid so little the majority of juries are composed of the poor, who generally see corporations an appropriate "mark" since they have so much money.

For openers, lets get jury compensation into the reality zone, with a mix of middle-class & up people on them and verdicts in these "victimhood" cases will change IMO.

8 posted on 07/30/2002 4:44:35 AM PDT by toddst
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To: toddst
According to this theory then the trial lawyers better start in on Johnson & Mead the leading manufacturers of Baby Formula..that crap is 58% SUGAR, which can't be good for the health of a child.
9 posted on 07/30/2002 5:17:22 AM PDT by GailA
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To: goldstategop
And no, it won't make the obese victims one bit thinner in their waist line.

It might when liability insurance causes the price of a hamburger to rise to $35.99 and all diners must sign a waiver before the meat hits the griddle.

10 posted on 07/30/2002 5:32:49 AM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: Tall_Texan
Would it be ok if tackle tne next fat slob I see standing in line at McDonald's to save him from himself?
11 posted on 07/30/2002 5:36:11 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: toddst
For openers, lets get jury compensation into the reality zone, with a mix of middle-class & up people on them and verdicts in these "victimhood" cases will change IMO.

I was on a jury last month that awarded a plaintiff over $5.5 million in punitive damages. This was no jury of poor people. These were all folks who appeared to be employed and with good jobs except for one housewife (and you assume she's got money since she's not employed). Education was also not an issue since the lawyers intentionally looked for people who could follow a rather convoluted scenario to understand the case.

Now, granted, this was not a product liability case (it was a case about a man who'd been owed $550,000 for fraud committed 16 years ago). But all (except me) saw nothing wrong with drawing a figure out of thin air and deciding this was "sending a message" to the defendants.

And, speaking of jurors not getting paid much, I haven't been paid anything. The check's been "in the mail" for over a month. I'm ready to start making a stink about it (media pressure, county commissioners, etc.) not because of the money but because it's not right to be forced to serve on a jury and then get stiffed by your government.

12 posted on 07/30/2002 5:42:57 AM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: Wolfie
Would it be ok if tackle tne next fat slob I see standing in line at McDonald's to save him from himself?

After you get out of your English As A Second Language class? Sure, it won't be me. I'm neither fat, sloppy nor a McDonald's customer. Just don't try that stunt at the drive-thru.

13 posted on 07/30/2002 5:46:58 AM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: GailA
According to this theory then the trial lawyers better start in on Johnson & Mead the leading manufacturers of Baby Formula..that crap is 58% SUGAR, which can't be good for the health of a child.

I'm just curious - this being of importance to you, have you asked J&M why the sugar content is so high? Wouldn't most mothers look at the contents and wonder about this?

14 posted on 07/30/2002 5:55:52 AM PDT by toddst
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To: toddst
...most mothers...

You're kidding, right?

15 posted on 07/30/2002 5:58:45 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
You're kidding, right?

Not at all. Most mothers are very concerned about their children and do ask questions like this. Even grandparents have these concerns (I'm one) and I believe many probe enough to be satisfied with answers on nutrition, medications, etc.

16 posted on 07/30/2002 8:00:06 AM PDT by toddst
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To: Tall_Texan
This was no jury of poor people. These were all folks who appeared to be employed and with good jobs except for one housewife (and you assume she's got money since she's not employed). Education was also not an issue since the lawyers intentionally looked for people who could follow a rather convoluted scenario to understand the case.

Now, granted, this was not a product liability case . . . But all (except me) saw nothing wrong with drawing a figure out of thin air and deciding this was "sending a message" to the defendants.

And, speaking of jurors not getting paid much, I haven't been paid anything. The check's been "in the mail" for over a month. . . .

I can't really comment on the merits of the case, accept you believe the judgement was out of line. However, I'm encouraged by your asessment of the jurors' qualifications. Perhaps your locale is different than mine in terms of people and their view of civic responsibility. Professional people here seem to try anything to get out of jury duty, to a great extent based on the "cost" of serving (time and income lost.) This concerns me greatly.

17 posted on 07/30/2002 8:15:23 AM PDT by toddst
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To: toddst
Mom's don't look at the content on baby food or formula. Why should they, they've been assured by the baby Docs and trusted baby food/formula makers that this stuff is good for their babies.

granddaddy of all junk food

best for babies

more info

18 posted on 07/30/2002 12:05:08 PM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA
Mom's don't look at the content on baby food or formula. Why should they, they've been assured by the baby Docs and trusted baby food/formula makers that this stuff is good for their babies.

Thanks for the informative articles. Both my children were breast-fed. One is now a Mom and breast-fed my granddaughter, who is a very strong and advanced child, will be two in November. My daughters' friends have breast-fed their children.

Perhaps my experience is atypical.

19 posted on 07/31/2002 4:17:09 AM PDT by toddst
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