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U.S. Should Consider Giving Military Arrest Powers, Ridge Says
Bloomberg.com ^ | 7/21/02 | Alex Canizares

Posted on 07/21/2002 9:38:40 AM PDT by GeneD

Edited on 07/19/2004 2:10:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Washington, July 21 (Bloomberg) -- The government should consider reversing a more than a century of tradition and law to give the military authority to make arrests and fire their weapons on U.S. soil in the event of a terrorist attack, Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge said.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; defensedepartment; dod; donaldrumsfeld; homelandsecurity; joebiden; possecomitatusact; terrorism; tomridge; usmilitary; vetscor
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1 posted on 07/21/2002 9:38:41 AM PDT by GeneD
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To: GeneD
Whoa here hoss.... Arrest powers???? Never....Arrest Ridge for not caring a damn about individual freedom and the constitution. We already have to many Federal cowboys with the power of arrest

This is no longer a citizen army, it is a "professional" army. I want no part of them enforcing the law...Never...

2 posted on 07/21/2002 9:43:15 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: GeneD
"Let's just open the door a crack and see if anyone hollers."

If Joe Biden -- or any Democrat for that matter -- is in favor of this kind of assault on our civil liberties, then it should be setting off alarms all over Conservative-dom.

This is probably the most dangerous period in American history. It is the turning point at which the government finally had the courage to admit that it is planning war on its own citizens. If anyone if naive enough to believe that this is about terrorism, don't buy a watch in New York City.

Any attempt to revise Posse Comitatus should be met with howls of rage and a quiet determination to resist at all costs. It means that "working within the system" just got to be a much narrower option.

Note to Mr. Ridge: The terrorists are OUTSIDE this country, and the military is not supposed to be deployed domestically. We already have a POLICE force. How can you leave our borders wide open to every swarthy bomb-thrower, then demand the right to march soldiers up and down our town square to "protect" us? Why not stop the rats before they get off the ship? Because you, sir, are a liar and a tool of tyrants.

3 posted on 07/21/2002 9:52:02 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: GeneD
I could see support for a constitutional amendment to PROHIBIT use of the United States Armed Forces in domestic situations.

This is frightening on an Orwellian scale.

4 posted on 07/21/2002 9:55:28 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: GeneD
Can't the President declare Martial Law in some situations which would override the Posse Comitatus Act?
5 posted on 07/21/2002 9:55:32 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: GeneD
The government should consider reversing a more than a century of tradition and law to give the military authority to make arrests and fire their weapons on U.S. soil in the event of a terrorist attack, Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge said.

Uh... No.

6 posted on 07/21/2002 9:56:19 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: IronJack
Iron

We are being sold down the river by republicans, with the aid of democrats that would never have dared pull this one off. The republican sheep better wake up and smell the gun powder. Ridge should be given the boot now.

The Gestapo moves closer to being every day and the citizens are asleep.

7 posted on 07/21/2002 9:57:30 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: GeneD
I don't like the sound of this......
8 posted on 07/21/2002 9:58:00 AM PDT by proudofthesouth
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To: GeneD
nope its a bad idea,time to pop that trial balloon
9 posted on 07/21/2002 9:58:00 AM PDT by linn37
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To: GeneD
That was an asinine thing to say "giving soldiers arrest powers".

They already have the ability to detain until Law Enforcement arrives. And if the Law Enforcment officers think he/or she is a terrorist then he/or she could be transferred back to Military authority in order to go before a military tribunal.

Some of these Conservative politicians need to think before they speak......all that statement is going to do is piss off Liberals and Conservatives. Ridge screwed up saying something like that.....that in the end is a stupid solution to anything.

10 posted on 07/21/2002 9:58:44 AM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: IronJack
I could see support for a constitutional amendment to PROHIBIT use of the United States Armed Forces in domestic situations.

This would have been a good idea about 20 years ago .... now? Never happen.

America is dead .... the police state curtains are descending.

11 posted on 07/21/2002 9:59:22 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: GeneD
Any body who believes this power would only be used against foriegn terrorists and not US Citizens please signify by smashing your head through your monitor!!!!

Its OK. You aren't using it anyway.

12 posted on 07/21/2002 9:59:30 AM PDT by Ahban
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To: IronJack
"then it should be setting off alarms all over Conservative-dom. "

It won't. After all, it's just in the interest of keeping us safe. </sarcasm off>

13 posted on 07/21/2002 9:59:36 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: GeneD
March along, single file, "citizen" and be prepared to 'show your papers' as required...
14 posted on 07/21/2002 10:01:12 AM PDT by RCW2001
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To: GeneD
This will not stand. It's foolhardy and dangerous.
15 posted on 07/21/2002 10:01:49 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Fred...

I would add it is "dictatorial"...

16 posted on 07/21/2002 10:03:38 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: GeneD
This is a very bad idea.

The military should never be used for domestic law enforcement.

17 posted on 07/21/2002 10:04:34 AM PDT by Mulder
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To: cynicom
This is no longer a citizen army, it is a "professional" army. I want no part of them enforcing the law...Never...

Just wait until the army consists of felons, illiterates, and foreigners.

They know that most of the American officers and senior enlisted men will support the US Constitution, so they will send them off to Timbuktu, while they bring in the Hessians.

18 posted on 07/21/2002 10:09:44 AM PDT by Mulder
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To: GeneD
Gene

Bush better refute this one real quick as it will be another nail in his re-election coffin. He better disown this bastard child real quick. Even better take Ridge to the woodshed or fire the man.

19 posted on 07/21/2002 10:09:47 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: DoughtyOne; Abundy; dirtboy; Tancredo Fan; agrandis; Demidog

Reichstag Bump..

20 posted on 07/21/2002 10:10:45 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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