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Expert: Body dumped after defendant fell under suspicion (SO WHO DUMPED DANIELLE VAN DAM'S BODY??)
Union Trib ^ | July 11, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

Posted on 07/11/2002 6:47:45 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: AmusedBystander
If he physically could not have done the crime, would you still want to convict him? It appears, from the bug evidence, that he had to somehow elude police and media surveillance to kill her and leave her at Dehesa, since her body was not there until the 16th, when he was not only under media watch, but had a gps device on his car. If he had driven to that area, the police would have known, and would have brought that up during the trial. They didn't.
81 posted on 07/11/2002 8:13:14 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: YaYa123
No, not according to testimony. The blowfly maggots were first generation on direct and cross.
82 posted on 07/11/2002 8:13:55 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Ha ha! You're good!
83 posted on 07/11/2002 8:14:33 AM PDT by shezza
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To: redlipstick
Thank you. Most kind of you, and greatly appreciated.
84 posted on 07/11/2002 8:14:59 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: shezza
*bows*

Thank you! You've been a lovely crowd...GOODNIGHT!
85 posted on 07/11/2002 8:16:04 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

I now feel 99.9999% sure that the bugs don't lie and that body was not there before mid-February

I AGREE....so the $850,000 dollar NEW HOME/QUESTION is....if it was not there?

1.    WHEN DID IT ARRIVE??

2.    WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO DANIELLE/OR HER BODY DURING THIS NEARLY 10-14 DAY INTERVAL??

3.    WHERE ARE THE RECORDS OF THE DETAILED SURVEILLANCE OF THE FOLLOWING PERSONS?

DAMON VAN DAM

BRENDA (BENDER) VAN DAM

BARB (BARB-WIRE) EASTON

DENISE (DUH-KNEES) KEMAL

RICH BRADY

KEITH STONE

HHHMMMMM......

MAKES THIS HISTORICAL DATE EVEN MORE CHILLING IN MY OPINION......


Major ritual "sabbat" dates on the Occult/Witchcraft/Satanism calendar.

This date sticks out....February 2, 2002    Danielle Van Dam, Age 7

 

DATE: October 31 NAME: *SAMHAIN; ALL HALLOWS' EVE; HALLOWEEN; NOVEMBER EVE WITCHCRAFT: Rituals to contact the dead SATANISTS: Sexual and blood rituals with animal or humans & animal or human sacrifice

DATE: December 21/22 NAME: YULE; WINTER SOLSTICE; WITCHCRAFT: Rituals celebrating the rebirth of the sun SATANISTS: Sexual rituals, animal or human

DATE: February 2 NAME: IMBOLIC; IMBOK; CANDLEMAS; OIMELE; LADY DAY; BRIGID DAY WITCHCRAFT: Sexual rituals; Celtic triple goddess Brigid honored. SATANISM: Sexual rituals, human

DATE: MARCH 20/21 NAME: Spring Equinox; Vernal Equinox WITCHCRAFT: This is a fertility sabbat. Pagans celebrate the coming of fertility of the earth; Sexual rituals celebrated by various groups. SATANISM: Orgies held; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: April 30 NAME: *BELTANE; MAY EVE; ROODMAS DAY; WALPURGISNACHT WITCHCRAFT: Rituals focusing on the love between male & female. In fact, many pagan handcastings (weddings) take place at this sabbat. Rituals celebrating the fertility of the Mother Goddess (Earth) are carried out. SATANISTS: Blood rituals; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: JUNE 21 NAME: SUMMER SOLSTICE; MIDSUMMER'S EVE; WITCHES: Bonfire rituals SATANISTS: Orgies; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: AUGUST 1 NAME: LUGNASADH (Named for Celtic Solar god Lugh);LAMMAS DAY WITCHES: Harvest rituals SATANISTS: Animal or Human sacrifice

DATE: SEPTEMBER 21 to 23 (Date varies annually) NAME: AUTUMN EQUINOX WITCHES: Some covens have rituals reenacting Pluto or Hades (grim god of death) forcefully carrying of Persephone (young goddess of life) to the underworld. SATANISTS: Sexual orgies and or animal and human sacrifice.


86 posted on 07/11/2002 8:18:12 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: AmusedBystander
Frankly, I am surprised at all of the support that Westerfield is receiving on this forum. The evidence and his actions seem to point to his guilt. Many here even question the parents based simply on their lifestyle. Most knew OJ was guilty on even less direct evidence.

Dear AB:

For all of 'us' who support DW,Frankly we are surprised at your statement. Perhaps if you answered the following questions (since your screenname is one I don't believe I have seen on these DW trial threads )we could better respond to your question.

(1)Have you read any of the past threads on the DW trail?

(2)Have you read any replies on this thread?

(3)Have you watched the trial itself ?

(4)Did you watch it on COURT TV?

(5)Do you have an understanding of the laws of the United States, and procedures for evidence?

(6)Do you understand what proof beyond a reasonable doubt means?

Now, if you think I am being smartaleck, I assure you I am not. The reason I ask these questions is because DAILY we get posters that come on these threads, and prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that they are totally ignorant of everything about law, justice, and court, and their source of info for this trial is basically the National Enquirer and COURT TV (which is about the same thing).

87 posted on 07/11/2002 8:18:22 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; FresnoDA; All
Excellent.

I have a request. As a sort of ersatz librarian and archivist for the trial material, I would love it if people would either repost their songs, or freepmail them to me for my files. I've seen some brilliant ones, but I might have missed some of them.

88 posted on 07/11/2002 8:19:01 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Here's my contribution this a.m. from the Dead Thread:

Hello, Libby
(Sung to the tune of "Camp Granada")

Hello, Libby?
It's the Demon.
You recall what
We've been schemin'?
Need to come up
To the cabin
Then frame our neighbor so the cops can come and grab him.

Had to call
911 first,
Think I'll hang out
With the searchers,
Look around some,
Maybe party,
See if I can scope out one who's not a smarty.

You know, man,
I've been thinkin',
Since that thing's
No longer stinkin',
We can go a-
head and lose it,
Someplace in the desert...where? Don't know. You choose it.

Know a pal
Who'll come with me,
Pass out flyers
So they won't miss me,
We'll get the "package"
From the cabin,
Dump it where our neighbor's been so they can grab him.

When I tell ya,
You call Bender,
Don't say nothin'
To offend her,
Tell her things are
Lookin' brighter,
That insurance dough will make her conscience lighter.

Let 'em know
Where to find her,
Disguise your voice,
Just a reminder.
Wait 'till after
I can place her
By that big tree near the dump out on Dehesa.

There's a trap
On my phone now
They can tell
Who I call now,
But they don't know
What we're sayin',
So if they ask you, tell 'em we were only prayin'.

Well, I'm leaving
For the desert.
All this thinking
Makes my head hurt.
Thanks for helpin'
With the cabin.
Okay, I'm off to frame the neighbor so they'll nab him.

89 posted on 07/11/2002 8:20:23 AM PDT by shezza
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To: MizSterious
Freepmail on it's way
90 posted on 07/11/2002 8:20:27 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: Illbay
Was he not involved in this whole "swinging" crowd?

No, he wasn't. He had just broken up with his girlfriend and started going to DAD's. He saw Brenda with Barb the weekend before FEB 1 and asked if she would introduce him to Barb. The only reason he 'knew' Brenda was she was a neighbor and her and Danielle came over to sell him GS cookies.

91 posted on 07/11/2002 8:21:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: shezza
LOL...oh shoot...that's GREAT!
92 posted on 07/11/2002 8:21:34 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: MizSterious
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Dehesa site near the Singing Hills Golf Course? Providing plenty of irrigation, I'm guessing to support flies even in a drought?
93 posted on 07/11/2002 8:23:14 AM PDT by HoneyBoo
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To: Illbay
Diane Halfman. Who is she and what bearing does she have on the case?

CLose personal friend of the Van Dam's. Retired Policewoman. Was there at the VD's from the VERY FIRST MOMENT. Advised the VD's on police procedure and what to say/not say do/not do. ALSO a CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND of the DETECTIVES that Were INVESTIGATING the case.

94 posted on 07/11/2002 8:23:31 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
I believe he stated it was unexplainable under cross from Dusek. The witness was very polite to both sides, giving answers as to his findings based on the premise of the questions. He was very reluctant to confront either questioner re their premise.

I got to hear the last part of testimony, and my ears heard Dusek trying to stretch the PMI timeline all the way back to 3 Feb due to various weather factors. The bug guy was then asked about the unusualness of the bugs.

I may not be making this clear, but he seemed to be saying, 'Yes, based on your premise of 4 Feb, it is very unusual and unexplainable not to have normal insect activity". In other words, he seems to refute the premise, but just didn't say so in clear language. I think Dusek just wanted to get him to say "unusual" and "unexplainable" out loud, and hope the jury would not attach those words to Dusek's untenable premise.

I think ALL the testimony under direct, cross, re-direct, etc. definitively shows the body was not there BEFORE 16 Feb. The expert was quite adamant on that point despite Dusek's attempts to muddy the waters.

95 posted on 07/11/2002 8:23:54 AM PDT by fnord
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To: HoneyBoo
Yes, think I mentioned the golf course nearby. Irrigation, yes, and also garbage from the club, etc.
96 posted on 07/11/2002 8:25:18 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: AmusedBystander
Excuse me....But most of the people on this thread have been following the trial on TV or reading the transcripts. Our law says GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT....not what the media wants to spin. If you have not been reading transcripts etc, my suggestion would be "Don't open your mouth to show your ignorance"

I too had doubts as to DW innocence, however, the DA has definately NOT proven the case. Infact, it appears that the LE and media have done a job on DW. Read the transcripts!
97 posted on 07/11/2002 8:27:24 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: FresnoDA
You see, there is a equatorial shift that runs through the San Diego area...culminating at Dehasa Road...and it really "screws us" bug types up....so we breed faster, longer, more profusely than any other locations on earth...

ROFLMAO !
I'm running out of keyboards that are being ruined by coffee.
98 posted on 07/11/2002 8:28:34 AM PDT by pyx
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
bravo! good songs today ... I feel the pressure to come up with one
99 posted on 07/11/2002 8:32:52 AM PDT by fnord
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To: UCANSEE2; FresnoDA; spectre; Jaded; Politicalmom; All
Fresno asked a real good question in the title of this thread:

So who dumped the body?

Here's another one:

So who downloaded the porn while DW was at the PD being questioned?

How many other "so who" questions can we add to this list?

100 posted on 07/11/2002 8:37:27 AM PDT by MizSterious
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