10 Great Things About America (Liberals, Pay Attention!)

alt.radio.talk, crossposted to other newsgroups | July 4, 2002 | Dinesh D'Souza

[Tanniker Smith]

Saw this, thought I'd pass it along for comments.

[Sam Cree]

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[nothingnew]

Saw this, thought I'd pass it along for comments.

Thanks for the post...There are so many great immigrant writers that I find on freerepublic...Valint...Baliysnov?...uhm, I can't remember how to spell his last name...I bet you know who I'm talking about...

The keen insight some of these writers bring from the repressed nations they come from reinforce my love of this country...

We all need to step back from our births here the USA, and look at our place in the world through a third person perspective...it's truly a blessing for us ALL to live here, but at times we can all be truly jaded at times...oh well,....HAPPY FOURTH ALL!

FMCDH

[marktwain]

Excellent points, especially about America's fat poor people. Our poor, at their level of material affluence, would be upper middle class in most of the rest of the world. The average black income in America is about the same as the average Swedish income. In fact, in most of the world, the American poor's affluence would be above 95 percent of the rest of the population.

[fnord]

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[Kerberos]

"Although protesters rail against the American version of technological capitalism at trade meetings around the world, in reality the American system has given citizens many more years of life, and the means to live more intensely and actively."

Some years back I worked for a pharmaceutical company for a while. One of the women there had a picture hanging on her wall of a group of animal rights protesters, with their signs of how cruel it was to do testing on animals and the like. Underneath the caption read, "Thanks to animal testing these people will be able to protest for 23.8 years longer."

I would have loved to gotten a copy of it.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Dinesh D'Souza

We're really big on free trade too. Trade another like you for Hillary Clinton.

[mcenedo]

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[The KG9 Kid]

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[Tired of Taxes]

I just saw the above article posted on another forum, too. D'Souza wasn't an immigrant in the old fashioned way. He didn't come here with nothing and then scrape his way to the top. He had help from Americans - specifically, he received a scholarship from a Rotary Club when he was just 17. Then he went on to Dartmouth. His family in India wasn't poor by India's standards, either.

D'Souza is not an immigrant I would hold up as an example. Now the people who came here in the early 1900's... who had nothing and then fought in two world wars for this country and then still had nothing... THEY were the ones worthy of admiration. D'Souza just got a free ride.

[krb]

Twice in the 20th century, the United States saved the world: first from the Nazi threat, then from Soviet totalitarianism.

If you count the Cold War, then it's three times last century that we saved their butts.

[krb]

D'Souza is not an immigrant I would hold up as an example.

He is every bit the example immigrant. Who cares that he was wealthy in India. All the more kudos to him; he had it "good" over there and still saw the light. How many people do you know who have come over here from some hellhole and can articulate to the commoner how awesome and important the freedom experiment is for the world?

[Sonny M]

Your right, actually, african americans, if they were a country to themselves, would be the 10th wealthiest nation in the world, ahead of even several european countries. It is true though that were are the only nation where someone can be poor and overweight (and I don't mean big boned or genetics), or poor and own a TV, stero, VCR, a car, a place to live, not worry about hunger, or even better only in america can one have an addiction to a substance or some kind of money sucking problem and still be able to not starve to death.

[Tired of Taxes]

There's certainly no crime in being wealthy. But, if we're going to criticize people for coming here and receiving handouts and special favors, let's point out that D'Souza received his share. Again, his way here was paid by other Americans. On the other hand, many other immigrants came here without help, had nothing, and, even though they continued to have nothing, they still loved this country, some fighting and dying for it. If D'Souza hadn't received special favors, would he be so in love with the United States?

-Not a D'Souza Fan

[quietolong]

Read the book "MIG Pilot " Says most of the same things

[krb]

What handouts? Rotary club stuff? That's private charity, right? Dartmouth financial aid? That's a private school, right? Get real, man. D'Souza is not at all like the leechy immigrants that are bitched about around here.

[Temple Owl]

C'mon Tired, you are just being contrary. Who would you rather have at your party or in your foxhole--Clinton, Teddy, or D'Souza. This guy is a better American than most.

[Sonny M]

Why is it that poor people from other countries seem to show more love for this country then many of the people who's families have been here for generations or more then some european immigrants? I've noticed in college where african students showed more patriotism then the african american students, or the kids from central america showed more patriotism for america then the puerto rican kids? Asians and Indians seem to show me so much more of their appreciation to this great land of ours then african americans and many hispanics (not including mexicans), etc. Why is that?

[Sam Cree]

"Our poor, at their level of material affluence, would be upper middle class in most of the rest of the world. The average black income in America is about the same as the average Swedish income. In fact, in most of the world, the American poor's affluence would be above 95 percent of the rest of the population."

I was wondering where you got your very interesting statistics?

[Tired of Taxes]

C'mon Tired, you are just being contrary

I'm not a fan of D'Souza because, after receiving special treatment from Americans and becoming successful in the U.S. thanks to them, he then turns around and makes a career wagging his finger at everyone else, specifically black Americans. It's different when Walter Williams wags his finger because he CAN say something. But, D'Souza had everything handed to him; now he stands on his soapbox and thinks he's something special. Look, I can have my own personal opinion of the guy. After all, this is America. :-)