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Anti-Americans had me in tears on the Fourth of July
Daily Telegraph ^ | 07/06 | Julia Magnet

Posted on 07/06/2002 8:59:49 AM PDT by ginle

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To: ginle
For centuries the British went about the world like drunken thugs; murdering, pillaging, raping. Now when the US acts in self defense, many of them project their post-colonial guilt. However, I would dare submit that the majority of Britons completely support the US and are well aware that more of their citizens were murdered on 911 than in any terror attack in their history. As for these schoolboy twits, the fact is, we really do not have to listen to them. Their opinions do not count.
101 posted on 07/06/2002 3:07:49 PM PDT by dmeara
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To: Inkie
Agreed, so let's stop saying: "...if it wasn't for us you'd be speaking German."
102 posted on 07/06/2002 3:11:13 PM PDT by David Hunter
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To: Howlin
...the other guy, what's his name? - Gore?

Even being an ocean apart, we still ask the same questions - eh?

103 posted on 07/06/2002 3:12:49 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Ohioan
Without a credible and well planned source of disinformation and propaganda, liberalism would fold.

Conservatives are spread out fighting a war on 20 different fronts. We can never muster enough resources for a knock out blow in any because there is always another crisis, another issue that needs immediate attention. The libs have us fighting everyday not to lose ground, when we should be planning on advancing and taking ground. This will never happen until we eliminate their basic ability to beat us on the propaganda front.

Blocking and tackling. Victories go to those who have the courage to prepare to win.

104 posted on 07/06/2002 3:17:38 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: David Hunter
My mistake! I should have done my research but on Fourth of July weekend we get... how do the Liberals say it? Ah, JINGOISTIC!!! :D

I thought it through and if I was in your place, those types of comments(The US won the war alone type.) would insult me deeply. You replied with wit and grace and I hope you will accept my apology.

105 posted on 07/06/2002 3:17:51 PM PDT by Arioch7
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To: David Hunter
Cheers.
106 posted on 07/06/2002 3:20:02 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: spitz; Suffolkman; sushiman; Snowyman; Gutterboy
You might be interested in this thread. I seem to be the only Brit contributing to it. There are some real Anglophobes posting here.
107 posted on 07/06/2002 3:28:05 PM PDT by David Hunter
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To: RicocheT
You're right. I spend alot of time in NI and England and most Brits aren't anymore 'anti-American' than the average US college student. Perhaps the young lady in the story should start socializing outside of the Chelsea Marxist circle.
108 posted on 07/06/2002 3:29:20 PM PDT by constitutiongirl
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To: Arioch7
I do accept your apology, thank you.
109 posted on 07/06/2002 3:31:29 PM PDT by David Hunter
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To: David Hunter
Agreed, so let's stop saying: "...if it wasn't for us you'd be speaking German."

I agree with your earlier points that it was a team effort and that the US doesn't deserve "all" the credit.

But that still doesn't mean the above statement isn't true. Right? Think about it. Best,

110 posted on 07/06/2002 3:33:36 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Prodigal Son
I do the same thing with my spelling. I'm especially stuck on the '-our' (humour). I've been Brit/Irish educated and it's habit now, I guess.
111 posted on 07/06/2002 3:38:55 PM PDT by constitutiongirl
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To: Paul Atreides
I don't have the slightest idea what an Alabama-style cake is, and I lived there for 4+ years.

Incidentally, a friend of mine who who hailed from AL brought me back a hilarious snack wrapper from a year he spent in the UK. It was a cookie wrapper that said something like this: "Alabama Snack Crackers--'From the Banks of the Mississippi.'"

What I found particularly humorous about this was that my friend showed the wrapper to his Brit-pals expecting them to find the geographical inaccuracy contained in this slogan as funny as he did and NONE of them got it.
112 posted on 07/06/2002 3:41:03 PM PDT by bourbon
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To: David Hunter
You are welcome.

About the Anglophobe comment above. I would have to agree with you and I know quite a few anglophobes conservative myself. I am not one mainly because I watch so much of your Television. I am a liberalphobe! :D

It is just that a large amount of hatred is directed towards America and it is human nature to direct the hatred back to its source. It is not rational and to tell you the truth, I would HATE to be a Conservative in the UK or the mainland as it is bad here but not nearly as bad.

I do have a critique of your parliament though. When I was watching a session, I noticed that as a Conservative stood up to speak, the room erupted in jeers and cat calls and they practically booed the guy back into his chair.

It does not seem very dignified at all, I was stunned actually. Is this a regular occurence or does it happen often?

113 posted on 07/06/2002 3:41:09 PM PDT by Arioch7
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Really. They're still pissed about a little Tea Party that got out of hand.
114 posted on 07/06/2002 3:42:53 PM PDT by rintense
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To: dread78645
But what is the opinion of a fictional spook turned gangster supposed to prove?

Parody: 1. A literary or artistic work that imitates the characteristic style of an author or a work for comic effect or ridicule.

The quote was from a British film, so don't you think the object of ridicule might be a certain kind of American and their anti-British opinions?

115 posted on 07/06/2002 3:46:36 PM PDT by David Hunter
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To: ginle
They were just upset that they found out they were at a party to celebrate the day we declared war on them.
116 posted on 07/06/2002 3:51:33 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Arioch7; David Hunter
an interesting book about 'anglophobia' written by a friend of mine. Thought you fellows might be interested.
117 posted on 07/06/2002 3:53:25 PM PDT by bourbon
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To: Arioch7
I do have a critique of your parliament though. When I was watching a session, I noticed that as a Conservative stood up to speak, the room erupted in jeers and cat calls and they practically booed the guy back into his chair. It does not seem very dignified at all, I was stunned actually. Is this a regular occurence or does it happen often?

This often happens. British parliamentarians are not known for their subtle methods of debate. It is not uncommon for the Parliament minutes to record shouts of "shame" when actually the shouts were "bollocks", that's the least rude phrase they might use.

118 posted on 07/06/2002 3:54:59 PM PDT by David Hunter
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To: ginle
ykLvice: No matter how intense politics are in the US, Ameicans as a whole simply do not take it personally. The personal well-being of every American is not tied up with the performance of the Government. BUT many others (Brits, Aussies), see things very differently.

Some time back I called a dear friend of mine (past Secretary to a PM of Australia). I asked her how she was. My answer (and this is a very bright woman -- fluent in several languages -- answering -- "I've got the heads and the backs and the dollar's no good." -- Translation: she had both a terrible headache and a bad backache when I called-- YET -- incredibly, she also (item #3) listed the poor performance of the Aussie Dollar as reason to be sad.

Would any American talk like this? Americans simply do not personalize world affairs. So many others do.

There is your answer.

119 posted on 07/06/2002 3:59:06 PM PDT by Utopia
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To: ginle
A word of advice: No matter how intense politics are in the US, Ameicans as a whole simply do not take it personally. The personal well-being of every American is not tied up with the performance of the Government. BUT many others (Brits, Aussies), see things very differently.

Some time back I called a dear friend of mine (past Secretary to a PM of Australia). I asked her how she was. My answer (and this is a very bright woman -- fluent in several languages -- answering -- "I've got the heads and the backs and the dollar's no good." -- Translation: she had both a terrible headache and a bad backache when I called-- YET -- incredibly, she also (item #3) listed the poor performance of the Aussie Dollar as reason to be sad "Crook".

Would any American talk like this? Americans simply do not personalize world affairs. So many others do.

There is your answer.

120 posted on 07/06/2002 4:00:08 PM PDT by Utopia
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