Posted on 07/03/2002 2:50:06 PM PDT by I_Publius
Jul 3, 2002
By Brian Skoloff
Associated Press Writer
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - Wal-Mart, the nation's biggest gun seller, is strengthening its policy on background checks of firearms buyers beyond the requirements of federal law.
The retail giant directed its stores to hold up sales in which the time limit for a background check had expired because of concern criminals could still get guns, spokeswoman Jessica Moser Eldred said.
Potential gun buyers nationwide undergo a background check through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. The dealer can sell a gun, though, if the check isn't completed within three business days.
Managers at Wal-Mart's 2,600 American stores must wait until the check is made, no matter how long it takes, before selling a gun, according to the memo signed by company executives. The memo was dated May 31 and the policy is now in effect.
The policy applies only to rifles and shotguns, since Wal-Mart does not sell handguns.
"We wanted to make sure we were doing our part to keep guns out of the hands of those who should not be getting them," Eldred said.
Law enforcement officials are notified if an ineligible buyer gets a gun because the time limit expired, said Gary Wick, assistant operations manager for the national background-check system.
Policies such as Wal-Mart's can help prevent potentially dangerous situations, he said, especially when law officers try to retrieve the gun.
"Then it becomes an officer safety issue, because a lot of people will get upset when an officer comes after a gun they have bought," Wick said.
The National Rifle Association said it is considering its response to Wal-Mart's policy. The group disagrees with the policy "in the sense that it penalizes law abiding citizens," said spokesman Andrew Arulanandam.
AP-ES-07-03-02 1726EDT
This story can be found at: http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA5IP3Q73D.html
You left out a few other "good" things, didn't you? Such as "colluding with those in power," "exploiting slave labor in China," and "stifling the free exercise of our God-given (and Constitutional) rights.
End sarcasm. Recommend you read Psalm 73. It just may contain a sneak preview of your final destination.
Your post (in my view) sadly displays a Constitutional logic that is fatally metastasized by the cancer of compromise.
Your post is "Exhibit A" of why I am a former NRA member, but a present financial supporter of GOA, KABA, and CCRKBA. Other worthy orgs include JPFO and COA.
Here's another scenario...
A nice couple in a small town. On a tight budget with modest income. They've got several small children. Threatening calls late at night. Same guy every time. Then one of their kids comes home crying after being scared to death by some stranger near the school yard. His dad reports all this to the police, but they can't offer this family protection 24/7. The dad hasn't owned a gun in years, but decides he has to protect his family from this stalker. He settles on the local Walmart for his purchase, because it's the only affordable option for a reliable weapon locally. He walks into Walmart 3 days after his purchase and they tell him he can't have the weapon because the background check is incomplete. Late that night, the stalker, who turns out to be some lunatic from his past who still carries a grudge, invades their home, brutalizes everybody in the house and kills him. His wife, now in a wheelchair for life, sues Walmart for wrongful death, etc. for instituting a policy which was not legally mandated and which deprived them of the only practical means of self-defense available to them.
Exactly. Wal-Mart understands in this litigation happy time that they will be sued for any actions taken by the person using any gun purchased there. If the family of a gun crime victim can trace the gun back to Wal-Mart, KA-CHING $$. Most lawyers wet themselves when they get a chance to sue Wal-Mart--the most sued company in the world.
Wal-Mart is simply doing what it must to avoid frivolous litigation.
I prefer to live a life of discontent so; NO, I will not get used to it, and will continue to hound my representatives.
Even if WalMart can set any sales constriction they wish as private company it doesn't stop me from gaining access elsewhere.
These guys are pretty good. I haven't bought anything gun-related at Wallyworld in years.
Posted on Sun, Apr. 28, 2002
He who pulls the trigger bears the reponsibility
J.R. Labbe
Help wanted: Sporting goods clerk. No sales experience necessary; will train. Doctorate in psychology or psychiatry required.
If the plaintiffs in a multimillion-dollar lawsuit against the nation's largest retailer had prevailed last week in a Fort Worth courtroom, that's what employment ads for Wal-Mart might have looked like in the future.
The family of Chris Marshall, one of two attorneys killed in a July 1992 shooting rampage in the Tarrant County Courthouse, and survivor Judge Clyde Ashworth tried to pin civil responsibility on Wal-Mart for not training its sales clerks to recognize the visual and verbal traits of someone who might be mentally unbalanced.
In a $24 million civil suit, attorney Art Brender argued on behalf of the victims that the corporation didn't have "proper procedures" in place to help a sales clerk recognize George Lott as a potential threat.
Never mind that the federal laws requiring criminal record background checks before a handgun could be sold weren't enacted until two years after the shootings.
Discount the fact that Lott, when filling out the "yellow sheet" on May 2, 1992, for the purchase of the gun he would use so fatally 60 days later, did not reveal he had been indicted a month earlier in Illinois on an aggravated sexual assault charge - something that would have automatically disqualified the transaction.
Forget that neither the sales clerk nor anyone else wearing a Wal-Mart name tag pulled the trigger.
The sole party responsible for the death and destruction that occurred that horrible July day was arrested in 1992, tried and found guilty in 1993, and rightfully executed by the state of Texas in 1994.
And jurors apparently recognized that, even if the Marshall family and Ashworth don't. It took all of 30 minutes for jurors to decide that Wal-Mart was not culpable.
Related lawsuits, in which victims or their survivors have attempted to hold gun makers responsible for crimes committed with their products, also have failed. Courts across the country have realized that manufacturers of legal products aren't responsible for a purchaser's misuse or abuse of the merchandise.
The jury also must have recognized the impossibility of expecting a minimum-wage sales clerk - who may or may not have a high school diploma - to discern who is mentally unbalanced and who isn't. That's a challenge for professional men and women with an alphabet soup of degrees behind their names who spend hours observing an individual before making an assessment.
The attempt to place liability where it didn't belong was just one troubling aspect of the case. The other was that mental illness equals mentally unbalanced and therefore the potential for violence.
A number of studies have shown that people with mental illnesses are not more violent than the general population. If mental illness is one of several factors including a criminal record and a history of substance abuse, then the potential for violence increases, but studies show the violence is more likely to be directed inwardly, and not at others.
To stigmatize people with mental illness as a tragedy waiting to happen is unfair and inaccurate. It is exactly the kind of stereotype that keeps people with treatable depression, anxiety and other mental illnesses from seeking help.
Unfortunately, that's exactly what U.S. Sen. Chuck Schumer and U.S. Rep. Carolyn McCarthy - Democrats from New York - have done in a bill they jointly sponsored that will require state mental health facilities to send the names of patients to the national background check system.
"Common sense says that someone who is mentally ill shouldn't be able to buy a gun," McCarthy said at the news conference.
Of course, one must consider the source when reading quotes about guns by the honorable representative from New York. Having your husband killed and your son wounded by a madman who shot up a commuter train will skew your perspective. Like Ashworth, McCarthy makes a great witness during victim impact testimony - but she isn't the level-headed, detached thinker needed to make national laws.
A horrible event took place in Fort Worth on July 1, 1992. The lives of the people directly involved and their families were forever changed. But the person responsible for that tragedy has already been held accountable - and he can never kill again.
Jill "J.R." Labbe is a Star-Telegram senior editorial writer. (817) 390-7599 jrlabbe@star-telegram.com
As an aside, the local Walmart never does any advertising with local radio stations or newspapers. So in return, the only time Walmart gets mentioned is when there is a stabbing or a car broken into in the Walmart parking lot. For any other business, it would be just "in the parking lot of a local business". Heh, Heh.
Now I'm going to feel a lot safer by shopping at KMart instead of Walmart.
Flame away.
If anything, this is a good thing, when big stores get out of the gun business, small stores are able to survive. And small stores will be more reliable, even if the political atmosphere turns against guns.
If we get to relying on Wal-Mart and K-Mart for our access to firearms, our second amendment might as well be dead, because they could stop selling any day.
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