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Just wanted to share my thoughts on this topic in general, and so I chose this thread to post them. But, poof, it was gone... so, why let such superb prose go to waste?
1 posted on 06/29/2002 11:31:54 AM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: Richard Axtell
Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change. These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values GROWTH!
2 posted on 06/29/2002 11:39:24 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Richard Axtell
The outright distortion and shredding of the English language has become just about the favorite tactic of the ideological left, in their fevered campaign to fool the public and destroy what remains of any value system that once was the shared strength of our nation.

You make two excellent points. The first is the above.

The second, puts the ideologically bankrupt leftist bedwetters into two categories: Those who deliberately lie to advance their agenda, and those who bought the lies and help perpetuate them (the fools.)

Frankly, it doesn't matter one iota to me if one of these ideologically bankrupt, limp-wristed liberal bedwetters know they're lying or not. It simply doesn't matter. We all have the ability to find the TRUTH. Liberals make the choice NOT TO, in order to further their own agenda. The phrase "if you tell a big enough lie long enough, eventually even you begin to believe it" certainly applies.

Leftist Lemmings.

3 posted on 06/29/2002 11:42:06 AM PDT by usconservative
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To: Richard Axtell
Great reading!..
Sorry that I missed the deleted thread
4 posted on 06/29/2002 12:15:42 PM PDT by LuigiBasco
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DU troll posted the thread, and was bragging about it over there. He's history and so is the thread.
5 posted on 06/29/2002 12:48:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Richard Axtell
We have all allowed this fraud to continue on too long. Arm yourself with an understanding of the actual wording, content, and intent of the Constitution, and relentlessly resist the darkening pall of lies and corruption that this author so well represents. If duty means anything to conservatives and libertarians, they will take this advise to heart.

This is the key.

6 posted on 06/29/2002 12:52:08 PM PDT by swheats
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To: Richard Axtell
Well said.
7 posted on 06/29/2002 12:54:02 PM PDT by semaj
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To: Richard Axtell
All of these arguments regarding some mythical seperation of church and state grossly fail in one crucial aspect. These so-called readers of the Constitution don't understand proper English, nor do they know the definition of the plain English words used in the text.

The statement "Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion..." does not even imply a seperation of church (or religion) and state. The two words "an establishment" means that Congress shall not infringe on any established religion.

If the Founders wanted to have "seperation" of church and state, they would have used "the" in front of the word "establishment", instead of "an". This country was founded by Christians with Christian values in mind, a fact so stated by a number of the original founders.

To try to seperate our goverment from the religious values that were the foundation of creating it, is simply the masturbatory dream of illiterate Socialists.

8 posted on 06/29/2002 1:12:25 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: Richard Axtell
The outright distortion and shredding of the English language has become just about the favorite tactic of the ideological left...

Of course.

Otherwise, how could you debate what the meaning of the word "is" is?

9 posted on 06/29/2002 1:15:23 PM PDT by DuncanWaring
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