[NYer]

a legal expert says that won't mean anything in a legal battle

Which reminds me of a good lawyer joke.

Q. How many lawyer jokes are there?
A. Only three. The balance are documented case histories.

[maeng]

You would think by now that the writer of this article would know there is NO clause for Separation of Church and State!!!!

Yet, ever so sneaky, it is inserted in this article....(a very tricky way to get people to believe it).

[toenail]

http://www.law.columbia.edu/news/surveys/survey_constitution/introduction.shtml -- saw this mentioned at DU, of all places.

[aristeides]

Gov. Gray Davis and school officials in the town of Elk Grove, where the plaintiff lives, both promised to appeal.

Does California have standing to appeal, when it did not participate in the district court proceeding, or in the circuit court proceeding up to now?

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Where is the unconstitutional "state church" created by the Pledge of Allegiance? I'd like to attend...

[chainsaw]

The Pledge of Allegiance by Red Skelton
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"Congress shall make no law" Will someone please tell me which law congress passed that establishes a national religion. I personally cannot think of one.

[Copernicus]

Some other thoughts about the Pledge of Allegiance:

Thoughts on the Pledge of Allegiance.

Thought 1 . God fearing Patriots and Conservatives do NOT Pledge Allegiance to a piece of CLOTH or a tangle of poorly defined concepts.

This is called IDOLATRY.

Thinking Conservatives pledge allegiance to God and BECAUSE of their pledge to God swear to protect and defend those institutions and principles critical to Human Events here on God's Earth.

To understand this concept compare and contrast the Pledge of Allegiance with the Boy Scout Oath or the Oath of Office required of the President as written in the Constitution to wit:

"I solemnly swear (or affirm) I that I will faithfully execute the office of the president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States.(so help me God)

Distinguish between this oath taken by a man whose allegiance is pledged to God and who seeks to honor God with his vow to serve faithfully and well on Earth and the Pledge of Allegiance to the "flag and the republic for which it stands" (whatever that means!)

This also happens to be the oath administered to members of the United States Military and the vow I took when I joined the Navy.

I must honor that oath by my respectful disagreement with those people who somehow confuse idolatry with an attack on religious belief.

Thought 2. This tempest in a teapot is a direct result of leviathan Government abrogating unto itself the education of the nation through the device of a monolithic Public School establishment.

It is inconceivable the government court system would do anything other than rule for the benefit of the government in the government run school system.

Anyone unhappy with the 9th Circuit ruling should seek to shut down the government monopoly over education immediately.

Impeachment of judges, public street protests, letters to the editor are both useless and meaningless if the Public School Monopoly survives unaltered.

It has been said many times before: "The Government governs best that governs least". This is especially true in regard to the education of the young.

Best regards to all, .