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For every year worked beyond 55, two years of life span are lost! (Chart inside)
A FRiend ^ | 06.28.02 | Registered

Posted on 06/27/2002 10:58:37 PM PDT by Registered



TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lockbox; oldpeople; retirement; shaft; socialsecurity
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A FReeper buddy sent this to me. Pretty interesting data to say the least. Glad I'm retiring in 5 years!
1 posted on 06/27/2002 10:58:38 PM PDT by Registered
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To: PeterPrinciple
flagging
2 posted on 06/27/2002 10:59:51 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Registered
I'm only 28, so this doesn't apply^:)
3 posted on 06/27/2002 11:00:57 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Registered
Jesus Christ! I'm already dead and nobody's told me.
4 posted on 06/27/2002 11:01:49 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Registered
No wonder they raised the retirement age to 70. What Social Security crisis? They'll just work us until we drop, then we get one or two checks before it's time to dump us in the old ash heap. Heck, by the time I'm 70 they'll have raised it to 75, by the time I'm 75 it'll be 80, by the time I'm 80 I'll be dead. Nothing like getting a good return on your investment.

Social Security - such a deal! How can anyone not love a socialist welfare program like Social Security? Just because they give away billions every year to people who never paid a dime into the system, so that the rest of us who actually pay into the system can work until we die! Boy, sure makes me feel good about working hard and paying taxes my whole life.

5 posted on 06/27/2002 11:06:46 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Registered
Bunk. I don't believe this data for a second. Quite the opposite.
6 posted on 06/27/2002 11:17:22 PM PDT by Kay
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To: Kay
I don't believe this data for a second

i'm with you kid, this study hardly controls for enough effects to reach the conclusion that they do!

7 posted on 06/27/2002 11:21:03 PM PDT by tamu
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Good rant. It's like in Catch 22~~every time they reached the number of missions they had to fly, they raised the number of missions they had to fly.
8 posted on 06/27/2002 11:23:04 PM PDT by vikingchick
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To: Registered
The control group does not have retirees from other industries. All the retirees in this study are from Boeing Aerospace.
The conclusion should say "For every year worked beyond age 55, Boeing Aerospace retirees lose two years of life span."
9 posted on 06/27/2002 11:23:14 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Billy_bob_bob
I was thinking the same thing.
10 posted on 06/27/2002 11:25:23 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Jagdgewehr
Might it be that the people who can retire early have more money (possibly from other sources than the job) and thus can afford a less stressful lifestyle and better medical care.
11 posted on 06/27/2002 11:26:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Registered
Oh, what are "reitrees" of Boeing Aerospace (see caption). The correlation is too smooth and too drastic. It looks like a hoax.
12 posted on 06/27/2002 11:27:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Registered
I've always thought retirement was lethal. Take a look at the statistics. Retired people die at a much, much higher rate than non-retireds.
13 posted on 06/27/2002 11:29:21 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: Fred Mertz
I'm only 28, so this doesn't apply^:)

Quick! Retire now!

Look at that GRAPH... it is a linear regression... if you retire RIGHT NOW you will live to be 138 years old!!!!

14 posted on 06/27/2002 11:30:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Yep, the data points are way to smooth.
15 posted on 06/27/2002 11:31:20 PM PDT by DB
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To: Registered
For some odd reason I'd always considered that working for its own sake mattered, too.
16 posted on 06/27/2002 11:43:23 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Might it be that the people who can retire early have more money (possibly from other sources than the job) and thus can afford a less stressful lifestyle and better medical care.

No argument with your "thesis" statement. It is very likely that many retirees may live longer, healthier lives due to the conditions you outlined. I'm not sure that this particular study has the reliability necessary to support this conclusion.

17 posted on 06/27/2002 11:43:48 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Swordmaker
Yes and then someone expanded Gauss to three dimensions and then four etc and voila we have multiple regression. One explannatory variable is ok sometimes. This time it is probably not.

Want to bet that income and wealth are negatively related to retirement age but positively related to life expectancy. I would bet it is true and that is what this graph is likely leaving out. Thus the real story is more likely something like rich people retire early, have more wealth, better medical services, have worked in less physically taxing jobs and thus live longer.
18 posted on 06/27/2002 11:45:16 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Registered
Hey, I'm only a vegetable, a lowly vegetable, but I know this...

This is absolute Crapola from a first grade mind. Any who have studied even the basics of stat know that an absolute 45 degree correlation (which this portrays), is pure fantasy on the part of the idiot who put this thing together.

This is exactly the type of ByullSheetStatistics that snake oil pollsters put together to further the likes of a Clinton or GoreWhore.

It takes more than a couple of weeks at a seminar for polling to learn the mathematical aspects of statistics and probabilities.

However, one FACTOR is always present these days for the party of Liars, that of the statistics being " SKEWED "...

Simply put, you cannot trust any silly simplistic poll put out by anyone anymore, if you do not know the minimum number of samples required for a T, Chi(square), or normal distribution.

Even if you do know the basics of random sampling, the difference between possibilities and probabilities is damn sure not known by the average semi-literate American citizen....

Example...." I, the math Vegetable, say that the Sun will rise tomorrow", (this one regardless of which horizon)...

Is this statement a (1)Fact, a (2)Prediction, a (3)Probability, a (4)Possibility, or just (5)a whimsy of Fantasy on the part of the author?

Are you, the "American People " going to yell "That's not fair!!", or are some, plenty, or all of you going to do the homework (if you do not already know the answer), and give a researched, scholastically sound answer?

Please respond, for I am going to plan my future growth on the answers.....
19 posted on 06/28/2002 12:55:03 AM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Swordmaker
Chortling!!! I got the same answer!

Every 20-something retire RIGHT NOW and live another 90 years. Don't worry, the OTHER people will pay for your existence!

20 posted on 06/28/2002 1:13:40 AM PDT by SAJ
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