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MONDO WASHINGTON: Al Qaeda Training for Small-Arms Massacre
The Village Voice ^ | June 25 2002 | James Ridgeway

Posted on 06/25/2002 11:31:20 AM PDT by Senator Pardek

As July 4 approaches, people are hunkering down, waiting for the terrorists to strike, whether with nerve gas in the subways, fuel trucks plowing into synagogues, bombs carried in kayaks, or assaults by fighters swimming to their targets in scuba suits. "They could hit us any day," Richard Shelby, the ranking Republican on the Senate intelligence committee, tells the nation.

According to various recent reports, over the past two months perhaps as many as 25 terrorists have slipped into the U.S. as stowaways. Osama bin Laden himself was reportedly last seen in April in northeastern Afghanistan, and is expected to release another of his tapes before the holiday. There have been numerous warnings about dirty bombs and weapons of mass destruction.

But the damage could come in the form of a much more conventional attack. An e-mail recently making the rounds of military and law enforcement circles describes a captured Al Qaeda training tape said to reveal the group's expertise in small arms and close commando situations in urban settings like New York, Washington, and Chicago. The people seen training are skilled at handling rifles and rocket-propelled grenades, and at making quick attacks and retreats. The footage may be fake, although the people sending the tape around are military veterans with extensive combat experience.

One scenario involves ambushing cops. An apparently disabled vehicle is parked just before a freeway ramp, with shooters hidden inside. When the police officer pulls up, someone inside blows the horn and the shooters burst out firing. Then there's the residential assassination, where someone knocks on the door of a home, then empties his gun into whoever answers. There's also the golf-course assassination, where an RPG-type rocket is lobbed onto a golf green, taking out the security vehicle and leaving the golfers to be mowed down by rifle fire.

In other scenarios, terrorists rappel down the side of a building from the roof, move through tunnels or sewers, carry out drive-by kidnappings, and blow up guard houses to get into the main building lying behind. Drive-by killings can be executed on motorcycles, with the shooter standing on rear pegs with arms extended over the driver, firing as the bike races down the street.

For bigger raids, terrorists carry concealed weapons into a building, say a school or a financial institution, then in a swift show of violence take over the room, marching people up to the roof. TV reporters and photojournalists are allowed in. The kidnappers then begin to execute prisoners one by one in front of the cameras. The tape suggests planning several simultaneous raids to gain maximum exposure. The key point is that absolutely no one is left alive—men, women, children, all are killed.

In advice to law enforcement, one analyst of this training tape urges cops to begin shooting as soon as they recognize what's going on, and not to wait for any SWAT team or other support. Complying at any point is useless, since everyone will be ritually executed on the roof.


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To: Lurker
Me too.

Wanna bet it'll happen in a community where firearm ownership is frowned upon?

21 posted on 06/25/2002 11:56:19 AM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: dighton
Thanks. That was fun!

L

22 posted on 06/25/2002 11:56:29 AM PDT by Lurker
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To: Nouge
Berkeley, CA?

Ithaca, NY?

Eugene, OR?

23 posted on 06/25/2002 11:56:48 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: Senator Pardek
Nope.

L

24 posted on 06/25/2002 11:57:41 AM PDT by Lurker
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To: Forty_two
At which point every American will be required to train with and carry a firearm.

Apparently the Brooklyn Rabbi calling for armed patrols has the right idea.

25 posted on 06/25/2002 11:59:40 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
You are right. Just as winning a conventional war required overwhelming materiel and weaponry, and merciless firepower, the key to winning the war against terror must be to out-terrorize the terrorists and those who harbor them. It will come to that if we are to win.
26 posted on 06/25/2002 11:59:56 AM PDT by luvbach1
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To: freeeee
"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to
restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they
were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or
promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples
of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The
one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this
scenarios, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of
their well being granted to them by their world government."

--Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberg organization meeting at
Evian, France, May 21, 1992. Transcribed from a tape recording made by
one of the Swiss delegates.

27 posted on 06/25/2002 11:59:59 AM PDT by old school
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To: Lurker
The scenario that bothers me the most is four or five van loads of these mooks showing up at a suburban shopping mall with AKs and cutting loose on a bunch of soccer moms and their kids.

That might finally bring home the fact that we are really at war. People may quit the political correctness and get serious.

Planes and buildings are one thing, even if they are full of people. Mowing down women and children shopping might unleash a whirlwind of retaliation that leaves the remaining towelheads sleepless a thousand years hence.

28 posted on 06/25/2002 12:00:34 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: freeeee
This is the ideal terrorist plot / It would be the 9-11 of gun control

Bingo.

Not to mention, CCW is of limited utility against a dozen terrs armed with RPG's and automatic rifles, even assuming they're inept. Better call out the National Guard, and confiscate private weapons.

Safer that way, you see.

29 posted on 06/25/2002 12:02:05 PM PDT by xsrdx
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To: Nouge
MECCA
30 posted on 06/25/2002 12:02:08 PM PDT by DM1
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To: Nouge
And what city do we start with?

Wouldn't Mecca be an attention getter?

31 posted on 06/25/2002 12:02:51 PM PDT by luvbach1
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To: 1Old Pro
LOL, I thought the same thing as I glanced out my window at the 8th fairway. (But what security vehicle was he talking about, the only security needed around our golf course, is a hard hat to protect you from flying golf balls when you walk into your front lawn.)
32 posted on 06/25/2002 12:02:55 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Senator Pardek
As July 4 approaches, people are hunkering down

Well, they should just unhunker and get on with their lives. sheesh.

33 posted on 06/25/2002 12:04:30 PM PDT by otterpond
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To: 1Old Pro
"Uh oh."

Won't bother me too much. The odds of catching me on or near the green are practically nil.



34 posted on 06/25/2002 12:04:56 PM PDT by meyer
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To: Senator Pardek
Government agencies, for years, have calculated "acceptible casualties" based on any senerio. How many schools would be attacked, how many shopping malls, how many churches, how many police ambushed, etc., and what kinds of "measured" responses and where would they be aimed. The one element missing, which is an unknown variable, is "when would local or regional vigalanteism take over and how can it be prevented?"
35 posted on 06/25/2002 12:05:32 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: codebreaker
If they start on the shopping malls, make it Mecca.

right.. ok... Then all hell breaks loose, and before you know it China, Russia and whoever else is unloading their nukes on us... That sounds like a great plan. I don't understand why people can't think logically. Sure that would probably put the terrorists in their place, but it would also be the beginning of the end.
36 posted on 06/25/2002 12:05:37 PM PDT by Nouge
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To: xsrdx
Better call out the National Guard, and confiscate private weapons.

That's exactly what would happen.

Forfeiture. Military patrolling the streets. Roadblocks. Internal passports (National ID).

The solution will be worse than the problem, and many Americans won't tolerate it. The terrorists know that, in fact they're counting on it.

The wisest thing to do in such a situation would be to allow American citizens to defend themselves. But given who is in office, I doubt that would happen. Just look at what happened to airlines for example. No guns for pilots, and soldiers in the terminals. We'd just see more of the same.

37 posted on 06/25/2002 12:08:26 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: Senator Pardek
An e-mail recently making the rounds of military and law enforcement circles describes a captured Al Qaeda training tape said to reveal the group's expertise in small arms and close commando situations in urban settings like New York, Washington, and Chicago.

They might try to pull this in some place like New York City, but around here in the rural South they would be cut down by common folks carrying concealed.

38 posted on 06/25/2002 12:08:52 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: Nouge
Sure that would probably put the terrorists in their place

ROFL. Bin Laden can only DREAM of the US nuking Mecca; I don't know if there's anything that would make him happier. The ultimate recruiting help, courtesy of the US.

Notice how effective the Romans destroying the Temple was in eradicating Judaism?

39 posted on 06/25/2002 12:11:04 PM PDT by John H K
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To: Forty_two
At which point every American will be required to train with and carry a firearm.

Don't forget to carry the pound of bacon for their dead bodies.

40 posted on 06/25/2002 12:12:05 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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