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The Star Wars Trilogy & The American Civil War (Is George Lucas Johnny Reb?)
www.jdedman.com ^ | May 20, 2002 | David Rogers

Posted on 06/17/2002 6:52:21 AM PDT by Grig

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
1 posted on 06/17/2002 6:52:21 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig
"It's just a movie."
2 posted on 06/17/2002 6:56:53 AM PDT by sturmde
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To: Grig
The original movie (Episode 4) is merely the first part of the Morte d' Artur. Luke is the young Arthur. The Light Sabre is Excalibur, and Obi-Wan is Merlyn. Filling in the rest of the blanks is easy: George Lucas did it; so can you.

So obvious that the producers of the dreadful Excalibur went to extraordinary lengths to telegraph the similarities when that stinker hit the screen. If they could get it, anybody could.

--Boris

3 posted on 06/17/2002 6:59:56 AM PDT by boris
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To: sturmde
Yeah, but movies carry a message in them.
4 posted on 06/17/2002 7:00:31 AM PDT by Grig
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I thought the same Civil War analogies on seeing the movie. Anyone who watches Lucas can see he is really into analogy and so many of his scenes are reticent of other great movies. (I love playing spot the other famous movie scene in his Star War movies). Even his character and planet names contain all kinds of hints. But I also see a strong liberalism running through his movies (armies and weapons =bad; talking and United Nations= good).

What the heck it was a great movie- I really liked it. And the art direction and costumes of Natalie Portman were stunning - really enjoyable on their own level. But if she was trying so hard not to seduce Anakin, why did she wear less and less clothes every scene? The last one her breasts practically popped out of.

5 posted on 06/17/2002 7:12:07 AM PDT by I still care
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To: Grig
(To the writer of the piece):

After some thought, I have determined the following...

  1. You make too much money and have too much time on your hands;
  2. You are a loser who can't get a date have and too much time on your hands; or,
  3. You still live at home sucking off of your parent's teat and have too much time on your hands
Whatever you choose, you have WAY too much time on your hands.
6 posted on 06/17/2002 7:12:40 AM PDT by mattdono
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Boy was I ever off! I thought "Star Wars" was a retelling of the "Wizard of Oz."

Luke Sywalker = Dorothy
Obi Wan = The Wizard
Darth = A flying monkey
Palantine = The Wicked Witch
That Gold Robot (whatzisname=the Tin Woodman"
R2D2= The Scarecrow or Toto, not sure which yet
Hans Solo=The Cowardly Lion
Jabba the Hut= the mean apple throwing trees

7 posted on 06/17/2002 7:13:00 AM PDT by parsifal
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To: shuckmaster; 4ConservativeJustices; one2many; billbears; ConstitutionDay; Alas Babylon!...
Ping!
8 posted on 06/17/2002 7:15:09 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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Dixie Bump....
9 posted on 06/17/2002 7:16:23 AM PDT by TomServo
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To: Grig

[[pffffffftt]] ... "Ahhhh... Far out, dude. And Obi Wan Kenobe is John Wilkes Booth while the Wookie is President Grant."

10 posted on 06/17/2002 7:16:52 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Grig
I just saw this the other night.

At the end when the evil Jedi is landing on the planet, did anyone else notice what looked to be the New York skyline with the twin towers in place. It appeared for about 5 seconds.

Is that old news?

11 posted on 06/17/2002 7:18:19 AM PDT by Pete
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LOL! Political fantasy must be a fun endeavor. ... Wanna hit?
12 posted on 06/17/2002 7:18:37 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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The last one her breasts practically popped out of.

Ok! Now you have done it! Damn it!

[Nudge] Alright, for the last time, let's see all the photos of Miss Portman and you will realize that this is not true. But, in order to settle this debate that MUST rage on, it is imperative that we be objective and look at the photographic evidence.

As much as we might hate to do so, it is absolutely necessary to view these pics. If her breasts are popping out or she is in skin tight outfits, then we must endure. But, as FREEPERs, we will make it through together...that's what is important.

</false shock> LOL!

13 posted on 06/17/2002 7:19:45 AM PDT by mattdono
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I don't think you have correctly rendered the relationship between palpatine and the rebellion. Palpatine set up the rebellion in Episode II so that he invoke the clone army--and in Episode III call for greater powers and sweep aside the republic. It was a plan that was already 10 years in the making when episode II starts since palpatine arranged for the original clone warriors 10 years before. Remember palpatine is the other bad guy whom we don't see in episode I and papatine winds up being the emperor in later episodes.
14 posted on 06/17/2002 7:25:32 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: I still care
really liked it. And the art direction and costumes of Natalie Portman were stunning - really enjoyable on their own level. But if she was trying so hard not to seduce Anakin, why did she wear less and less clothes every scene?

Much to learn for you young Jedi you have.

The right thing to do Sen. Amidala knows. Seduced by the dark side - not by Anakin's clumsy words - she was. Allow herself to be swept away by the dark side she did. Allow herself to be used by the dark side to then seduce young Anakin she has. Much fear I sense in her. Seduce by the power she was.

15 posted on 06/17/2002 7:29:02 AM PDT by Palmetto
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To: Grig
My theory on what happens in Episode III (as if you really care!)

Somehow, the Emporer tricks Anakin into turning on the Jedi. My guess is that he convinces Anakin that the Jedi are responsible for Amidala's death. I believe her death will involve Anakin heeding Obi Wan's advice to "continue with the mission" like he did in Episode II when she fell from the shuttle but survived. This time, she ain't so lucky.

Anakin then proceeds to help wipe out the Jedi. All with the exception of Mace Windu who is beheaded by Boba Fett, just as Windu did to Fett's father in Episode II.

Anakin then discovers that he was tricked by the emporer and that he is really the Sith Lord Darth Sidious. The two then have the now cliched light sabre duel (what else?). During the fight, Darth Sidious' arm gets severed to reveal a mechanical arm. Just like Anakin and Luke. Anakin then is horrified to discover that Sidious is really his father and he invites Anakin to rule the galaxy with him as father and son. And unlike when Vader makes the same offer to Luke in The Empire Strikes Back and is rejected, Anakin accepts and completes his surrender to the Dark Side.

The surviving Jedi (Obi Wan and Yoda) at some point prior to this realize that Anakin's children must be spirited away so they can not be turned to the dark side. I suspect that they fake their deaths somehow. Leia of course is placed with the Royal Family and Luke is brought to Tatooine to live with Anakin's half brother ("They're good people. You'll be safe here" he tells Amidala in Episode II).

The final scene of the movie will be a shot of the Skywalker farm on Tatooine from afar where you'll see a young Luke Skywalker playing outside. The camera will pan back to reveal that we are watching the scene thru the eyes of Obi Wan Kenobi from a distant plateau. And thats how it will all end. With the slight hope for the fate of the rebellion in the form of this young boy, under the watchful eye of the last of the Jedi.

16 posted on 06/17/2002 7:40:56 AM PDT by The G Man
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To: Grig
Maybe they'll change the ending and have Luke sell his slaves at the end of the Return of the Jedi.
17 posted on 06/17/2002 7:41:27 AM PDT by Vladiator
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NO WAY - the Empire is a genocidal regime gaining power through deception and use of the Dark Side of the Force. The Rebels are dedicated to restoring the former, representative form of government.
18 posted on 06/17/2002 7:49:23 AM PDT by crypt2k
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To: stainlessbanner
Movies do carry a message - and people that tell the truth are attacked.
19 posted on 06/17/2002 7:58:02 AM PDT by 4CJ
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