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Federal Judge Rules Against Medical Marijuana Clubs
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 6/14/02 | Jim Burns

Posted on 06/14/2002 12:15:06 PM PDT by kattracks

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To: tacticalogic
Red Herring. The government doesn't have to allocate resources to do this. All they have to do is grant the waivers to anyone who wants to conduct private research. They just don't want to.

I don't think that's right. The law says the Att. General has to consider x, x, and z, then the Sec of HHS has to gather data, submit recommendations in writing to the Att. general, who must then act on them. There's no way. They won't justify spending 10 minutes on it, and this would take more than 10 minutes.

61 posted on 06/14/2002 3:09:20 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck
The law says that if HHS recommends that a drug be removed then the AG must remove it. It doesn't require the the AG re-schedule it if HHS recommends it. Nixon commissioned research to prove that marijuana was dangerous, and when the results came back they didn't support that, and recommended that it be re-scheduled. The AG ignored the recommendation, and the research was buried.
62 posted on 06/14/2002 3:21:07 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Huck
"Can you imagine what it would look like if they allocated resources right now to research the efficacy of medical marijuana?"

I was thinking the same thing about the resources they allocated and continue allocating just to stop marijuana from being supplied to a few patients and overriding a State law in the process.

Do you think the Federal government enforces all of its laws as vigorously? For example, have they arrested or accounted for all illegal aliens from terrorist countries in the US?

How does it look to you the way the Federal government has been allocating its resources?

63 posted on 06/14/2002 3:21:22 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Huck
They won't justify spending 10 minutes on it

They could if they wanted to. They just don't want to.

64 posted on 06/14/2002 3:23:52 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Ken H
I was thinking the same thing about the resources they allocated and continue allocating just to stop marijuana from being supplied to a few patients and overriding a State law in the process.

Well, the argument certainly cuts both ways. Of course, now they have linked drug trafficking to terrorism, so that fighting drug trafficking is a function of fighting terrorism.

Do you think the Federal government enforces all of its laws as vigorously? For example, have they arrested or accounted for all illegal aliens from terrorist countries in the US?

Laws are not enforced equally. The various agencies are not equally effective. Maybe the reorg is supposed to address that. I really don't know.

How does it look to you the way the Federal government has been allocating its resources?

I think they allocate too damn many resources, but not too many people share my opinion.

65 posted on 06/14/2002 3:41:19 PM PDT by Huck
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To: tacticalogic
They could if they wanted to. They just don't want to.

That's right. They don't want to.

66 posted on 06/14/2002 3:41:54 PM PDT by Huck
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To: tacticalogic
now for the 40 billion dollar question.... Why is it so important for those who always seem to be in charge to bury the facts?
67 posted on 06/14/2002 3:46:39 PM PDT by Catalyst
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To: Huck
That's right. They don't want to.

And all the talk about how they "can't", and "our hands are tied" is pure crap.

68 posted on 06/14/2002 3:47:25 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: kattracks
Its not the black market - its the GREEN market : >
69 posted on 06/14/2002 3:47:57 PM PDT by H2dude
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To: Catalyst
now for the 40 billion dollar question.... Why is it so important for those who always seem to be in charge to bury the facts?

Because the facts might interfere with them staying in charge.

70 posted on 06/14/2002 3:49:00 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
And all the talk about how they "can't", and "our hands are tied" is pure crap.

WHo said anyone's hands were tied? (Ashcroft would probably blush at the turn of phrase--lets say handcuffed. Hmm, maybe not. Nevermind.)

71 posted on 06/14/2002 3:51:00 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck
WHo said anyone's hands were tied?

That's the rhetoric we get from the AG's office, and the federal bench. They don't have any choice but to bust the mm users in Ca. because marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug, and by definition has no medical use.

72 posted on 06/14/2002 3:54:29 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Catalyst
now for the 40 billion dollar question....

BTW - you can send my 40B to JimRob to help get rid of than damned ostrich.

73 posted on 06/14/2002 3:55:55 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
Because the facts might interfere with them staying in charge.

Lets say 65% of voters approve of Medical Marijuana and lets say at voting time this percentage maintains.... Why would outright obstruction and corrpution of the political process be necessary?

74 posted on 06/14/2002 4:00:56 PM PDT by Catalyst
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To: tacticalogic
Oh. Well, the Federal bench's hands are tied. But the AG has the power to get the process moving any time he wants.
75 posted on 06/14/2002 4:04:48 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Catalyst
Why would outright obstruction and corrpution of the political process be necessary?

Because somewhere there are people who have an interest in it remaining illegal, and enough money to make the politicians interested in keeping them happy.

76 posted on 06/14/2002 4:09:26 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Huck
Re the terrorist issue.

In your opinion, is supplying medical marijuana to patients in accordance with State law aiding the terrorists?

77 posted on 06/14/2002 4:30:46 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
In your opinion, is supplying medical marijuana to patients in accordance with State law aiding the terrorists?

I don't know. I am opposed to this state "law" because it is bad strategy, it is illegal, and because it expends federal resources--the courts, the tax dollars required to ejudicate the case--which could be better used elsewhere. A state cannot nullify a Federal law. This stuff is a waste of time. If someone wants to say it takes time away from other concerns, including terrorism, I guess you can say that. I don't really know if it's true.

78 posted on 06/14/2002 4:56:07 PM PDT by Huck
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To: kattracks
Great news!
79 posted on 06/14/2002 6:25:45 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Huck
The law was not declared illegal in court. Basically the court said that CA and the US had their own laws and even though they were contradictory, both laws were left standing.

What is the basis for saying it is illegal?

Also, I've got to call you on saying you don't know enough to have an opinion on whether or not supplying medical marijuana in accordance with State law is aiding the terrorists.

You brought up the terrorist issue on a medical marijuana thread. Now you're saying you don't know enough to have an opinion.

Do I have that right?

80 posted on 06/14/2002 6:28:54 PM PDT by Ken H
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