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To: spetznaz
Your methods of measurement have been proven to be fallible. Especially Carbon dating, which most older artifacts were measured by. So your ascertains of older Civilizations are speculation or Theory at best. Not proof.

You are running the age old play of turning the burden of proof on me. When I have made no claims of absolute scientific fact. Yet I have not heard one you on the Old earth side admit that you have only theory as well. Sure you may have some data that lends to your argument, it is still far from scientific fact though.

You want to play the burden of proof game? Prove God does not exist. Will you apply the scientific method and conclude that my claim cannot be scientific fact?

1. OBSERVATION

2. EXPERIMENTATION

3. REPRODUCTION

4. FALSIFICATION

You would be right I cannot prove it beyond a scientific doubt.

Now apply the scientific method to Old Earth/Macroevolution - same answer.

Thankfully my existence does not derive it's meaning from scientific calculation and theory. If it were, I would be nothing but star dust with no bind to morality and no hope of further exsistance beyond energy.

235 posted on 06/14/2002 3:10:55 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: CyberCowboy777
You want to play the burden of proof game? Prove God does not exist. Will you apply the scientific method and conclude that my claim cannot be scientific fact?

I knew sooner or later you would try to convolute this thread into a question of whether or not i believe in a deity, and if i can prove his non-existence! However i will not try to answer your question since i know there is no way to convince you otherwise, and trying to would just make you start posting acerbic replies to me...and i do nto like it when Freepers start attacking each other!

HOWEVER i will remind you that the reason i started posting stuff to you was to refute your assertion that the Earth is 6,000 years old! And you have posted replies to me saying that carbon and radiological dating is fallible, and that mistakes can be made. And do you know what? I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU! Yep! you heard me, i agree that it is not 100% accurate! However there is a caveat in this:

If the dating says the world is around 4.5 billion years old....meaning that even if it was only 1% accurate the Earth would still be much older than 6,000years!

Wow, 6,000 years! And all the terrestrial species on Earth fitting into a boat. And people living for 800 years (unless they had a different method of measuring chronological progression) when it is common fact that humans are living longer nowadays and not in the past! And then there is the belief that woman came from a rib! Or that Goliath was an actual giant and not just a very tall guy. Or belief in the Nephilim!

Or belief in unicorns. And did i mention gnomes! And trolls.....hill trolls even. Or maybe griffons and the rising phoenix!

Puh-lease!

238 posted on 06/14/2002 3:51:46 PM PDT by spetznaz
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