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1 posted on 06/13/2002 3:17:42 PM PDT by vannrox
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Are you trying to *educate* the masses regarding Islam or are you illustrating how hypocritical that 'cult' really is?
27 posted on 06/13/2002 3:54:59 PM PDT by Ravaged Nation
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MISCONCEPTION #1: Muslims are violent, terrorists and/or extremists.

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm sure Leon Klinghofer appreciated that distinction before he was in his wheelchair and his lifeless body was dumped overboard.

I'm also sure that grandmother and 18 month old BABY appreciated it before the ICE CREAM PARLOR they were at was bombed - ending the child's life.

And I'm sure the 2300+ victims of the World Trade Center also appreciate you clearing that up.

MISCONCEPTION #2: Islam oppresses women.

I'm sure Afghani women appreciate you assuring them. As do teenage girls who are forced to undergo mandatory female circumcision.

MISCONCEPTION #3: Muslims worship a different God.

That is certainly comforting to know, though I'm a bit confused as to why my Christian Bible doesn't mention that it's okay to murder 1 million American Children.

MISCONCEPTION #4: Islam was spread by the sword and intolerant of other faiths.

You've got a point here. An Airplane makes a much louder statement.

MISCONCEPTION #5: All Muslims are Arabs

I gotta give you that. AlQuida members are from Saudi Arabia, Africa, Kasakstan, etc. ... Yassar Arafat is Egyptian, the man who planned the WTC was Kuati, John Walker Lindh is an American, and that gang kid is from Chicago.

Yeah, Islam is a real equal opportunity employer.

MISCONCEPTION #6: The Nation of Islam is a Muslim group.

The same religion that supports Arafat is denouncing Farakhan? Why that makes all the difference.

MISCONCEPTION #7: All Muslim men marry four wives.

4 wives vs. 72 virgins. You do the math.

MISCONCEPTION #8: Muslims are a barbaric, backward people.

Yeah, killing an innocent 18 month old by bombing an ice cream parlor is real cosmopolitan behavior.

MISCONCEPTION #9: Muhammad was the founder of Islam and Muslims worship him.

And I care because ...

MISCONCEPTION #10: Muslims don't believe in Jesus or any other prophets.

I'm sure Jesus appreciates that. He's got enough people killing in his name.

Here's the thing, folks. Until Palistinians stop dancing in the streets when innocent Americans die, until Saders, ice cream parlors, school buses and pizza places stop being military targets, and until THE REST OF ISLAM TAKES TO THE STREETS AND DENOUNCES THE TERRORISM THAT DEFINES YOUR RELIGION TO THE REST OF THE WORLD, we won't give a rat's ass what is misconstrued about Islam.

We have a saying here in America ... "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care."

So I'd suggest you stop plugging bandwidth with propaganda and get your ass in gear ...
28 posted on 06/13/2002 3:57:10 PM PDT by MattGarrett
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The Biggest Misconception About Those Who Defend Islam:

Islam Defenders Are Intelligent People


29 posted on 06/13/2002 3:57:35 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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Muslims are violent, terrorists and/or extremists. This is the biggest misconception in Islam, no doubt resulting from the constant stereotyping and bashing the media gives Islam.

Yup, couldn't possibly be the 1300 years of warfare you bastards unleashed on us Orthodox. To bad for you we don't just give up but give as good as we get. Go peddle this fantasy BS somewhere else...like Chapel Hill. The hollow brained will be more willing to believe it.

30 posted on 06/13/2002 4:01:31 PM PDT by Stavka2
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#1, #2 & #4 ... BAH!!
31 posted on 06/13/2002 4:07:07 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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Note to allah
Jesus is God
32 posted on 06/13/2002 4:11:01 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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33 posted on 06/13/2002 4:14:45 PM PDT by WIMom
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We had a short interlude on a thread yesterday about your mamalist (s**t list) of islam websites. Today you show your colors. I don't know who you are but have come to the conclusion that you have much sympathy for the devils of islam. Yesterday you gave me a song and dance about being informed and today are trying to immerse the entire FR with this islam crap. I think you speak out both sides of your mouth and your tounge is forked. Go away!
34 posted on 06/13/2002 4:15:26 PM PDT by Dlta4ce
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What a piece of propoganda crap.
36 posted on 06/13/2002 4:18:18 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater
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Holy mackeral! Get a clue. If you need all these words to justify Islam, that should tell you it's a little confused in the head. Try some Christianity, which can be arguably be boiled down to:

"Love thy neighbor as thyself."

Islam can't handle that concept, apparently.

38 posted on 06/13/2002 4:23:50 PM PDT by lds23
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no doubt resulting from the constant stereotyping and bashing the media gives Islam.

No doubt. The fact that a group of Muslim loonies just hijacked four jetliners and ploughed them into various American buildings and soil is just a misunderstanding. As are the countless self-propelled bombs strolling through the streets of Jaifa, Tel Aviv, and Jerusalem. As was the 1993 Trade Center bombing, the maimings and executions in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, and the sheer treachery of our duplicitous Saudi "friends."

Yeah, those crazy media. They get it wrong every time, don't they?

39 posted on 06/13/2002 4:29:24 PM PDT by IronJack
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islam is the used car of religon...
There is the version "the car" that the salesman claims...
Then there is the version the poor schmuck who buys it gets ....
Two brands of islam...the sanitized anglo-sized version (one for the cameras)
And the one taught by the cabal insiders club...the real version...the one the shakers
and movers raise their apostles on...
And then I suspect there is even another version for the puppet masters themselves..
The version on the use of your own followers to do your dirty work...
41 posted on 06/13/2002 4:32:59 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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Do you call this justice or equality?

From the Hadith of Abu Dawud [6]. Book 38, Number 4348:

Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas: A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet was informed about it. He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.

He sat before the Prophet and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her. Thereupon the Prophet said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.

42 posted on 06/13/2002 4:33:11 PM PDT by knighthawk
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Oh sure. About #1 and #4 Sura 2:190-193 says to "slay them" (the unbelievers) Sura 9:5 says "slay the pagans wherever you find them" Sura 5:51 commands Muslims not to take Jews and Christians as friends. And #2, Sura 4:34 says "Men are the managers of the affairs of women" and rebellious women are to be beaten. Why bother with every "true conception?"
43 posted on 06/13/2002 4:35:57 PM PDT by jps098
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Mohammed was educated by private Jewish and Christian turors when he was a boy. His desire was to unite the Arab world in religious unity, as he saw how that unity benefited the Jews and Christians. His original intent was to create a sect of Jewdiasm, but the Jews flatly rejected his views as heresy.

He decided that the Arabs needed one god to worship, because they were worshipping about 100,00 different gods at the time. From the plethora of idols worshipped, he chose Allah, the moon-god.

The koran was not compiled by him, but by his followers. Whenever he would speak, a stenographer would record his speaches and the transcripts would be saved in a basket...the older speaches on the bottom. Later, it was decided to complie all of the transcripts into one text. Since the most recent writings were on top, they were recorded first, all the way to the oldest. Today, when reading the koran, the oldest of his sayings are at the back and the newest, at the front. You'll notice that the newest are the most vicious and restrictive, because as his following grew, so did his rejection and hence, we see his anger against those that don't hold his views.

He is as he was.

A heretic.

45 posted on 06/13/2002 4:41:20 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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Oh yeah and in other news:
LOS ANGELES - A Muslim fundamentalist was sentenced to nearly five years in state prison for vandalizing religious statues at a Roman Catholic church and stealing hundreds of magazines from a mosque. Emad Ibrahim Saad, 35, of Los Angeles, was sentenced Tuesday to 56 months in prison for vandalism, theft and hate crimes. Saad fired several attorneys and insisted on representing himself at his trial. However, on the last day of the trial, he refused to leave his jail cell and show up for court. Prosecutors said Saad decapitated a Virgin Mary statue...

Islam - the religion of the hateful AND the stupid.

47 posted on 06/13/2002 5:00:17 PM PDT by Wm Bach
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this thread should be called "the big thread of islamic lies"
49 posted on 06/13/2002 5:07:53 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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words are cheap. this and a quarter will buy you a cup of spit.

judge the tree by the fruit it bears.

what are the wonderful benefits this nonsense religion has bestowed, and where are their great works?

oh yeah, treat women like dogs, kill innocents in Gods name, lust for death.

as with all mystics, the standard of value is not man's LIFE, but man's DEATH. what is valued is what is promised beyond the grave. and they damn sure wouldnt want the acts they do to others done to themselves.

think about it.

51 posted on 06/13/2002 5:17:02 PM PDT by galt-jw
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Silly me. I've been guilty of so many of these very misconceptions! But now I realize that islam is a religion of peace and tolerance.

So, I'm sure the Saudi government would be glad to let me set up a little mail order business to their citizens. I'm thinking of getting some nice printing done...little pithy sayings about ol' 'hammed that I've come up with...and selling them for a few bucks a whack. All in a spirit of fun, of course. A touch of parody could lighten up matters wonderfully.

And I'll bet the folks over there would like some nice picture calendars - say, of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders for the males, and of the Chippendales for their wives and daughters.

What an exciting business opportunity! But, somehow, I think I shouldn't make such an offer in person....

52 posted on 06/13/2002 5:20:17 PM PDT by neutrino
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Nation of Islam is another name for Black Nationalist, which is an anti-white, anti-American, racist organization who started "K'wanzaa".
53 posted on 06/13/2002 5:22:55 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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