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1 posted on 06/04/2002 6:18:25 PM PDT by jordan8
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America, Love It Or Leave It.
2 posted on 06/04/2002 6:21:12 PM PDT by The Vast Right Wing
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Where's the Barf Alert?
3 posted on 06/04/2002 6:24:29 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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"Lots of Americans don't even like soccer and probably won't pay attention to the Cup

If I had a choice between watching soccer and watching something else, I'd rather watch my cat hack up a furball.

4 posted on 06/04/2002 6:30:04 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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"Buchanan and Lalas should relax. Soccer, for many immigrants such as 25- year-old Salvadoran Javier Sagastizado of Santa Ana, is enjoyed not only as a game but also as a kind of proxy for sociopolitical anxieties. That is, by rooting for their home countries -- or rooting against the United States -- immigrants have an outlet to express both frustration with their new home and pride in their old country. "...

"Though not from Mexico, Sagastizado is well aware of the Mexican team's strengths, and of Mexico's troubled history with the United States. From the 1848 Mexican-American War to today's border battles over water, Mexico is often on the losing side of U.S.-Mexican conflicts. The Tricolores can offer a much-needed national victory over the northern giant. "...

"It'd be nice for a Latin American country to beat the United States. It would be like payback."

"These desires to see the United States lose do not signify immigrant hatred toward America. "

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This writer is internally inconsistent. Pushing a story, he ignores the deceptive reponses. No problem, he probably thinks the same, as shown by this pathetic apologia. Currently our schools and culture teach the "immigrants" not to integrate and accept America, so it shouldn't be a surprise he wrote this piece, being a product of that system.

5 posted on 06/04/2002 6:30:08 PM PDT by Shermy
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Just because I want the United States to lose doesn't mean I want the country itself to suffer," Sagastizado says.

Don't worry, Mr. Sagastizado. This country won't suffer after a loss of a stupid soccer game. We're suffering from unchecked mass (illegal) immigration. And that's a game we can't afford to lose.

6 posted on 06/04/2002 6:31:04 PM PDT by germanicus
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That is, by rooting for their home countries -- or rooting against the United States -- immigrants have an outlet to express both frustration with their new home and pride in their old country.

If it's so dissatisfactory here, and the home-country fills you with such pride, then please exercise the FReedoms you enjoy here, and exit through the nearest convenient border crossing.

Actually, I think this is just the author's take, and not a true representation of the thoughts of the soccer fans. I was born and raised on Long Island, and moved to Dallas later in life. While it was risky to my health in the classroom (mostly joking), I did root for the Giants over the 'boys. It had to do with the team I was raised with, not with an opinion of where I currently lived. Most people are fans of a praticular team because of their family, the favorites of their youth, and the proximity of the team (their first game attended, etc). It has little to do with regional preferences outside of the sport.

7 posted on 06/04/2002 6:38:23 PM PDT by Teacher317
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What's soccer?
8 posted on 06/04/2002 6:39:16 PM PDT by boomop1
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"It would be like payback."

Payback for what?

Look Javier, if you think the US somehow "owes" you for something, no one is going to hinder your return to wherever you came from.

9 posted on 06/04/2002 6:52:45 PM PDT by elbucko
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Hello? Maybe it's because the U.S. soccer team totally stinks...
10 posted on 06/04/2002 6:52:51 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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Cuban Americans always root for the USA, especially when the opponent is Cuba.

Then again, most Cuban Americans won't be rooting for the U.S. soccer team. That would entail sitting through a soccer game without falling asleep. There are limits to patriotism.

11 posted on 06/04/2002 6:53:43 PM PDT by Polybius
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Unfortunately, Americans do not put much importance or money behind soccer; it just isn't a big money maker like basketball, football, hockey, or baseball. Perhaps if the U.S. had a better soccer team, more people would root for them.
12 posted on 06/04/2002 6:55:18 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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This article overanalyses the question of 'why does someone move and keep rooting for the team he rooted for before moving?'

If I move out of Jersey, I'm going to keep rooting for the Yankees.
13 posted on 06/04/2002 6:55:22 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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People take sports way too seriously anyway, with this writer being a prime example.
16 posted on 06/04/2002 6:56:33 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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When in Rome.......

As Americans, we think soccer is a bit of a joke....

these foreigners are just following suit

19 posted on 06/04/2002 6:58:40 PM PDT by WhiteGuy
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What a schmuck. Americans tend to route for their home town team no matter where they go from there, why should immigrants be any different? Nothing very exciting in it that's jsut how people are. Your hometown (country) team represents your roots, the foundation your life is built on.

And sometimes you just pick teams for the hell of it. Some of my favorite teams are from places I've never even been to, I like the way they play the game, the way the organization is run. To try to pin this on anything having to do with patriotism or politics is just silly.

20 posted on 06/04/2002 7:02:20 PM PDT by discostu
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Geez..it's just a game. Let people cheer for whoever they want.
Generally I always cheer for US teams over foriegn teams, but there are some US atheletes I think are real jerks and I would be glad to them lose to anyone. So what.
21 posted on 06/04/2002 7:05:16 PM PDT by Jorge
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"Just because I want the United States to lose doesn't mean I want the country itself to suffer,"

yeah right....pull the lever for more gun control....vote with the bolsheviks and RINO's... go home invader

30 posted on 06/04/2002 7:12:58 PM PDT by alphadog
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Are the Americans even fielding a team in this here so-called "World Cup of Soccer?"

I cannot imagine anybody getting excited about a bunch of greasy-haired men running around a large field in shorts kicking a ball around that maybe goes in the net three times a game.

Only seven more weeks until NFL training camp...

31 posted on 06/04/2002 7:13:21 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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Few of these immigrants will be cheering for the United States -- a fact that many nonimmigrant Americans see as tantamount to treason.

In 1998, for example, in a Gold Cup game in Pasadena, the U.S. team lost 1- 0 to Mexico before nearly 100,000 screaming fans -- nearly all whom cheered for the Tricolores, the nickname for the Mexican team.

After the game, bitter American fullback Alexi Lalas said, "Tomorrow morning they are going to get up and work in the United States and live in the United States and have all the benefits of living in the United States."

In this little passage, Gustavo Arellano reveals that he is a lying, dissembling shill.

It wasn't so outrageous that Mexicans cheered the Mexican team, even against our own. I don't mind if they have a little affection and longing for the countries they left.

What ticked people off was that they booed the American National Anthem and threw trash at our players.

But Arellano conveniently left that information out of his puff piece.




35 posted on 06/04/2002 7:19:40 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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A bunch of 5'6", 125 lb guys run up and down the field for 3 hours. At the end of the game, the score is 0 to 0, and the fans tear down the stadium. That's not anything that excites me. And as far as soccer players being 'the greatest athletes in the world' - Dennis Rodman could kick any four soccer players asses, at the same time, while wearing a dress.
36 posted on 06/04/2002 7:20:16 PM PDT by Comus
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