Yep, but for what duration can you read into this passage? You think it means forever? Why would God have instructed Abram to bare Ishmael at the detriment of man? And BTW, I know you meant Genesis 16-12.
Now, what of those who profess to worshop G-d? Matthew 7:21
That’s a reach, to equate it to Islam is ludicrous and not to mention it doesn’t address whether or not they follow the God of Abraham. And BTW, 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
If they expect to justify themselves before the throne of G-d, yes.
My point was one of interpretation, the difference between ritual, ceremonial and moral Mosaic Law were for the time, shellfish doesn’t keep well without refrigeration and the consequences are dire, only moral law in Leviticus is relevant now.
One must obey the whole Law to be justified by the Law, for the wages of sin is death
We’re in for it if we eat shrimp, Jesus gave us a pass on that but it would be hypocritical to expect it from only Jews.
His wrath tempered by his love, for He provided an Ark to Noah, and two angels for Lot and a promise for Abraham.
In other words G-d was vengeful towards the Sodomites.
Since Muhammed claims to be a messenger from heaven (First Pillar of Islam), and since he comes preaching a gospel other than that taught by the Apostles (the Koran), then what shall we do with Muhammad? You tell me.
I don’t know for sure, do you? Be aware of false prophets right? But we weren’t there, nor were we there for Joseph Smith. All I’m saying is if one worships the God of Abraham, we can’t judge whether or not those who will or will not go to heaven. Math 7:1. And as far as the BSA is concerned it’s worship of one creator who has many names.
While I believe that the Buddhists and Hindus are wrong in their belief systems, at least they do not pretend to be something they are not. Only Islam does this.
The Muslims I know believe in Christ and his salvation and purpose. Your interpretation of an infidel is in conflict to the majority of Muslims and is interpreted as one who would bring an end to Islam.
Genesis 16:12 makes reference to the tribe (Ishmaelites) that the Arabs are decended from. As for how long they will tend to be wild men; no one can say, except that when an Arab accepts Christ as his personal savior, he becomes part of the body of Christ which is most definitely not a wild man.
Why would G-d have decreed that the Ishmaelites were going to be trouble? Because of Abraham's lack of faith. G-d said that Sarah would bear the son of promise, but Abraham's faith at this time wasn't all it should have been, or he would not have harkened unto Sarah's admonition to have a son by Hagar. It was a judgement against Abraham and his seed; one that G-d uses to this very day, as a demonstration of his soverginty. Oh, I refer to Abram and Sarai as Abraham and Sarah because G-d changed their names in Chapter 17.
"And BTW, I know you meant Genesis 16-12."
If you had any idea what was going on here ... typos are the rule, rather than the exception.
"And BTW, 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged."
I am not judging Islam, but Islam judges itself. Judge not refers to an unfavorable and condemnatory judgement. This does not mean that a Christian should never render judgement of any kind under any circumstances. The New Testament is full of exhortations to 'mark those who cause divisions among you', 'receive not' those who deny Christ, exhort, rebuke, etc.
About the Law of Moses; it was given, not because G-d expects anyone to keep it. He knows better than anyone else that imperfect mankind cannot keep the Law. The sacrifical system was established to teach this very fact. G-d expresses his love for us in that while we were yet sinners, he (Christ) died for us; the only truely acceptable sacrifice to satsify G-d's justice. That's why it's called Grace. We do nothing to deserve it. This concept, this attribute, is absent in the Koran and in the directives of Allah through Muhammed. Grace, to the Muslim, is a foreign concept. Only submission to Allah, with all that goes along with it, can lead one to salvation. There are no guarentees with Allah.
As to what to we do with Muhammad, the Apostle tells us, specifically. You can read the answer for yourself. I quoted the Scripture for you. We should do the same with Joseph Smith too. Anyone who comes with another gospel, different from what the Apostles taught is to be rejected. (Note that I do not reject Mormons as people, only the doctrine -- One of my best friends, someone I hold dear, as a brother, is LDS - we do not tread upon this ground out of personal respect for one another -- but I still pray for him).
"All I’m saying is if one worships the God of Abraham, we can’t judge whether or not those who will or will not go to heaven."
Jesus said that He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life and that no one comes to the Father, except through Him (John 14:6). Him is not Mohammad, not the Virgin Mary, not a block of wood. Paul, the Apostle's Apostle, said that only their gospel, that which the Apostles preached, was to be accepted. James wrote: "Thou believest that there is one G-d; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble (James 2:19).
What James is saying here is if you're going to please G-d, then you have to do it His way, or join the ranks of the trembling devils. They believe in G-d too, and that terrifies them.
"The Muslims I know believe in Christ and his salvation and purpose. Your interpretation of an infidel is in conflict to the majority of Muslims and is interpreted as one who would bring an end to Islam."
Look at that; what you wrote. The only way you can reconcile Islam and Christianity, is to reduce Jesus from the only begotten Son of G-d, the Living G-d Incarnate, to some lesser being: a prophet, an angel, an avatar, even Lucifer's brother. Jesus Himself will one day put an end to all religions, Islam included, when He establishes his Kingdom upon the earth.
When I was younger, I experimented for several years with Hundu-like beliefs (New Age Mysticism). Having been delivered from that deception by Jesus, I studied other cult religions, including Islam. They all have a few things in common. They revise definitions to suit their needs. The Son of G-d become an avatar or a prophet. So, "Christian" to the Muslim means something completely different than it does to me. Jesus is, to the Muslim, just a prophet, not G-d in the flesh, the perfect Being. Another commonality is that they all have some leader-figure who has received some special revelation from G-d which others are not privy to. Jim Jones of People's Temple infamy comes to mind. Mohammad also received "special" revelation (the Koran). They all have "rituals" one must participate in, or one risks their "salvation".
Unlike the cults teach, Biblical Christianity teaches that Jesus has done all the work. This is so that no man may boast. No man will stand before G-d and say he did it better than anyone else. All we can do to please G-d, is to accept the salvation Jesus purchased for us, on the Cross. The unforgivable sin that some talk about, is to reject what Jesus has done. The good works a Christian does, come as a result of the working of Jesus in an individual's life, not as a prerequsite to salvation.
Once you understand just what Christianity is, you will be able to see that Islam and Christianity are not compatable. They doen't even come close. Remember this though, But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned (I Cor. 2:14).
You have to approach G-d by faith, not in yourself, but in Jesus, as His son. If you do this, rest assured that Jesus will never cast you away. You will also understand things clearly, things that may trouble you now, things that Islam has no answers for.