WHAT SHOULD CONSERVATIVES DO ABOUT THE GOP AND BUSH?

June-03-2002 | Texasforever

[Torie]

Didn't Reagan sign two tax increase measures into law, and allow the domestic welfare state to grow? I think he is a Rino. That must be why most folks consider his administration a failure. Just another in a long line of statists.

[Texasforever]

Here is an example of what one right wing organiation said about Reagan. Replace the name Reagan with Bush and you have an idea of how RR was viewed by the far right in this country. It is a long read but maybe it will soften your stance just a bit

Here

[deport]

As you say research but all are entitled to make their mistakes.... Thanks for you assessment of the list of names.....

Buckley, William Frank, Jr.

1925–, American editor, author, and lecturer, b. New York City, grad. Yale, 1946. Buckley is a popular, eloquent, and witty spokesman for the conservative point of view. An editor for The American Mercury (1951–52), he founded (1955) the National Review, which soon became the leading journal of conservativism in the United States. In 1965 he was an unsuccessful candidate for mayor of New York City. He has hosted the television show “Firing Line” since 1966, and writes a syndicated newspaper column. His nonfiction includes God and Man at Yale (1951) and The Unmaking of a Mayor (1966). His novelistic accounts of the adventures of an American spy during the cold war include Saving the Queen (1976) and A Very Private Plot (1994). He also wrote The Redhunter (1999), a largely favorable fictional presentation of Sen. Joseph McCarthy’s activities.	1
See his “autobiography of faith,” Nearer, My God (1997); biography by J. Judis (1988).	2

The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. Copyright © 2001 Columbia University Press.

[healey22]

Tancredo. Secure borders, legal and illegal immigration.

I am now a one issue voter post 9-11.

You really won't care whose in the White House in 2004 if we are all incinerated by a nuclear device. Period.

[Reagan Man]

... why can't Bush et. al. repeat Reagan's style, ie no holds barred conservatism?

I think President Bush has been very Reaganesque, at times. He presents himself as a true conservative and has promoted the conservative agenda, time and again. And as Reagan did, Bush43 is playing to the independents and the center-right of the political spectrum, while ignoring the political extremes, of the liberal left/far left and far right. That's how you win the Presidency.

[Theophilus]

I'll go to the poll and if nobody appeals to me, I'll just ignore that election.

Folks, welcome to the Ocean of Disenchantment. I've fell off the Titanic, and sunk to the hard rock bottom, a day or two out of port when Capn Bush made his apparently soul wrenching decision to federally fund macabe assays into the flesh of already^* murdered babies. "Global Warming"? If it's true, perhaps it's God's mercy, for perhaps He is just acclimatizing mankind for eternal warming in Hell.

^*already always makes it OK you see, life is just a liberal fait accompli...

[Diddle E. Squat]

Maybe because in the early 1980's the country was sick of being burned by Carter malaise and thus was open to change. 2000 was a different situation, far fewer were willing to risk change. Further, things didn't look to good for Reagan at some points early on, with a rough recession taking place. However by 1984 the economy had rebounded, many of his changes had taken root, and most importantly most of the country credited him with that. He had earned their trust.

Bush is still earning trust, and more likely solidifying it. Would I advise him to take more direct conservative stances on several issues? You bet, but I'm not going to forget all the other things he has done for conservatism, nor the position he is in, nor the environment in which he is operating in, nor the hand he has been dealt, nor the cost of the alternative, nor the heavy damage of the previous 8 years that still lingers and flares up. I'm not going to abandon ship just because everything isn't going exactly as I would like.

[al's a risky scheme]

I could not have said it better myself!!! Have all of you forgotten the CLINTON presidency!!! GW may not be as conservative as you may like but he is a million times better than AL GORE!!! It will take baby steps back, it has taken the Dems 30-40 years to get us here. GW has been in office 1 and a half years, give the guy a break, who knows what back room deals are being cut. He has to carefully pick his battles.

[tpaine]

'Let the democrats have it.' -- Is the only sane thing to do.

Elect Hillary & prince consort Billy, let them rule, and come the revolution we can start over again with a clean slate.

- Anarchyforever.

[Texasforever]

Elect Hillary & prince consort Billy, let them rule, and come the revolution we can start over again with a clean slate

Duly noted.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Would I advise him to take more direct conservative stances on several issues? You bet, but I'm not going to forget all the other things he has done for conservatism, nor the position he is in, nor the environment in which he is operating in, nor the hand he has been dealt, nor the cost of the alternative, nor the heavy damage of the previous 8 years that still lingers and flares up. I'm not going to abandon ship just because everything isn't going exactly as I would like.

[nopardons]

Not against John V. Lindsey, he didn't !

[tpaine]

I think President Bush has been very Reaganesque, at times. He presents himself as a true conservative and has promoted the conservative agenda, time and again. And as Reagan did, Bush43 is playing to the independents and the center-right of the political spectrum, while ignoring the political extremes, of the liberal left/far left and far right.

That's how you win the Presidency, as you lose a free republic.

Absolutely right! -- Anarchyforever!

[nopardons]

ROTFLOL !

[Starwind]

Admittedly, I'm painting Bush with same brush I'd use on the Rep Party and their abysmal handling of Clinton's impeachment. Add to that, Bush's signing of CFR, and other flip flops (Israel shouldn't fight terrorism like we are), and I see how it all infuriates grass root conservatives (in addition to myself) and I can not fathom the logic behind it.

He is perhaps starting with an patience deficit left to him from his father and the Rep Party during the Clinton years, but he is losing hearts and minds.

[tpaine]

Bookmark it.

[MissAmericanPie]

"I'm wondering just how much adrenaline my body can produce.

I have confidence in ya, you can produce enough that it's squirting out of your eyes.=o)

[nopardons]

Thanks. I was a tad fuzzy about Bill's dates. Being away at school, I wasn't there for that run and my memory shut down; I see. : - )

Still and all, I WAS correct about Teddy R. !

[nopardons]

There would be NO " revolution " ! This idea is just a " cut off your nose to spite your face", juvenile idea.

[Reagan Man]

Anarchyforever!
373 posted on 6/3/02 11:48 PM Mountain by tpaine

That's right folks, tpaine's a true blue anarchist!