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To: philman_36; ravingnutter; Liz; backhoe; mabelkitty; piasa
Senator Charles E. Grassley, an Iowa Republican who is on the Judiciary Committee, said his staff investigators would explore the accusations made by the Minneapolis agent, Coleen Rowley

Rowley's allegations have been discussed, analyzed, and debated in numerous FR threads--see below--where it was mentioned that the obstructing agents were Michael Maltbie and David Frasca. I recall that politically-correct policies towards Muslims were part of the problem.

I'll also mention that I'm skeptical of taking the New York Times' attempt to focus the allegations on Mueller at face value, both because of the Times' own agenda and because of some of the bureaucratic infighting involved (see the bolding in my first link below and compare with this from the present thread, Post 22: "DCI George J. Tenet is directed "to determine how the CIA and a dozen sister agencies are coping with rapid technological change and difficult new targets....Tenet must name an internal panel of intelligence officials and an external panel from the private sector to conduct the review and make recommendations. . .The eight-member panel of experts selected by DCI George J. Tenet to conduct a "comprehensive review" of U.S. intelligence is headed by retired Gen. Brent Scowcroft ["Don't Attack Saddam", By Brent Scowcroft, Wall Street Journal, August 15, 2002--Fedora] and includes retired Adm. David Jeremiah; former CIA deputy director Richard Kerr; former undersecretary of state Stapleton Roy [that would be Clinton's ambassador to China during Chinagate and later ambassador to Indonesia--see J. Stapleton Roy Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence and Research; also see these: "" Senior Diplomat Resigns to Protest Albright's Action: Ambassador Roy's Deputy, 2 Others Punished In Connection With Missing Top-Secret Laptop; "One employee who was said not to be personally involved but who took early retirement anyway was J. Stapleton Roy, a former Ambassador to China. His deputy at the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, Donald Keyser, was disciplined in the computer security scandal. Ironically, Roy’s name has now surfaced as a possible U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. in President Bush’s Administration. Roy is a noted apologist for John Stewart Service, one of the old China hands in the State Department who helped the Communists take power in China. During an "Open Forum" at the State Department last year, Roy had defended Service as a patriotic dissenter who had been victimized by "McCarthyism." In fact, Service was arrested for passing classified information to the editor of a pro-Communist magazine. He wasn’t prosecuted because Soviet agent Laughlin Currie, a top aide to President Roosevelt, arranged to get him off." State Department Documents Found In Moscow--Fedora]; former deputy attorney general Jamie Gorelick; John Foster, a member of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board from 1973 to 1990; Jeong Kim, an information technology expert who serves on the board of In-Q-Tel [In-Q-Tel: A New Partnership Between the CIA and the Private Sector--Fedora]; and William Schneider, a businessman who heads the Defense Science Board."). I suspect there are some CIA-FBI bureacratic conflicts involved here.

Anyway, here are some old threads:

Has someone been sitting on the FBI? (FBI Ordered Not To Investigate Saudis) (11/06/01) ("FBI agents Coleen Rowley and Ken Williams went to the CIA after being stonewalled by the FBI in Washington about the FBI agents' informattion on Bin Laden hijacker pilot (Phoenix and Minneapois)training missions prior to 9/11/01. These FBI agents' actions also show their concern about how the FBI is being run and was an obvious effort to enlist the help of the CIA since it is well known that the CIA is still not happy with the way the FBI is being run.")

FBI Slowed Moussaoui Probe, Field Office Says (5/23/02)

FBI chiefs so lax agents felt they were spies

Letter shifts heat to FBI (5/28/02)

Reno Reprimand Prompted FBI's Caution on Moussaoui (5/28/02)

FBI chief (Mueller) skewed Sept 11 facts (5/28/02)

Village Voice/James Ridgeway: U.S. Ignored Warnings From French (5/28/02)

Who were the FBI bosses stonewalling agent Coleen Crowley's requests? **FREEPER HELP REQUIRED** (Post #2: "The name Frasca, head of the Radical Fundamentalist Unit, the clearinghouse for all reports related to jihadis etc has been mentioned in reports. -SNIP from the POST. Law enforcement sources said the officials Rowley referred to only by title in her memo to Mueller were Michael Maltbie, a supervisory special agent (SSA), and his boss, David Frasca, chief of the counterterrorism division's radical fundamentalist unit.")

Rowley Faced More Than FBI Bureaucracy (6/6/02)

Whistleblowers gone with the wind: Catalan nails Sen. Feinstein for terror complicity (6/8/02)

Finally, while looking up old threads on J. Stapleton Roy I came across this interesting tidbit:

Conspiracy To Commit Treason

"John Deutch was an undesecretary in President Carter's Energy Department and a member of the Nuclear Safety Oversight Committee from 1979-1980. During his time there, Jamie Gorelick acted as his legal counsel."

60 posted on 04/15/2004 8:42:56 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
For the sake of reference, here's some background on Gorelick's former client John Deutch:

100 people, including former CIA Director John Deutch gets pardon from William Jefferson Clinton: Ex-CIA Chief Faces Allegations

Former CIA Director John M. Deutch, who previously admitted to mishandling sensitive data while heading the CIA, is now being investigated by the Defense Department for similar incidents, according to The Washington Post. Defense Department documents allege that Deutch used unsecured computers at home and his America Online account to access classified defense information in the early to mid-1990s when he held high-ranking jobs at the Pentagon, the Post said in Saturday's issue. ``We find his conduct in this regard particularly egregious in light of existing DOD policy directives addressing the safeguarding of classified information,'' the Post quoted an internal Defense Department memo as saying. ``This situation was exacerbated because Dr. Deutch, while serving as the (deputy secretary of defense), declined departmental requests that he allow security systems to be installed in his residence. ``The evidence we obtained clearly establishes that Dr. Deutch failed to follow even the most basic security precautions.''

Also, this is interesting, both for the reference to Deutch and for other reasons:

Namebase entry for GORELICK JAMIE S

These names share the indicated number of pages with the above name. Click on a name below for a standard name search: BANK CREDIT COMMERCE INTERNATIONAL 4 FREEH LOUIS JOSEPH 3 HATCH ORRIN G (R-UT) 3 HUBBELL WEBSTER LEE 3 NAQVI SWALEH 3 ALTMAN ROBERT A 2 BENNETT ROBERT S 2 BERGER SAMUEL R (SANDY) 2 FISKE ROBERT B JR 2 GLENN EUGENE F 2 MATTHEWS CHARLES III 2 POTTS LARRY A 2 SCHMIDT JOHN R 2 SHAHEEN MICHAEL E JR 2 SPECTER ARLEN (R-PA) 2 ABEDI AGHA HASAN 1 AFTERGOOD STEVEN 1 ALBRIGHT MADELEINE K 1 ARKY STEPHEN W 1 BASS KENNETH C III 1 BEN-AMI JEREMY 1 BODINE BARBARA K 1 BUTLER GEORGE LEE (GEN) 1 CADIGAN JAMES (FBI) 1 CLARKE FLOYD I 1 CLEVELAND HARLAN B 1 COULSON DANNY O 1 DAMATO ALFONSE M (R-NY) 1 DAMATO ARMAND 1 DEMPSEY JAMES X 1 DEUTCH JOHN MARK 1 DEVINE JOHN J 1 DI GENOVA JOSEPH E 1 DICKS NORMAN D (D-WA) 1 EDWARDS DON (D-CA) 1 EMANUEL RAHM I 1 EWTON RONNIE R 1 FEINSTEIN DIANNE (D-CA) 1 FINANCIAL CRIMES ENFORCEMENT NETWORK 1 FOSTER JOHN S JR 1 GAINES WEAVER H 1 GILMAN BENJAMIN (R-NY) 1 GINGRICH NEWTON L (R-GA) 1 GIROIR C JOSEPH 1 GLICKMAN DAN (D-KS) 1 HARBURY JENNIFER K 1 HEYMANN PHILIP B 1 HOLDER ERIC H JR 1 ISHAM JOANNE O 1 JEREMIAH DAVID E (ADM) 1 JOHNSON LOCH K 1 KELLY KEVIN (MAGAZINE EDITOR) 1 KERR DONALD M JR 1 KERR RICHARD J 1 KERREY BOB (D-NE) 1 KIM JEONG H 1 LANCE BERT 1 LAWRENCE MICHAEL G 1 LEFFERT ANTHONY 1 LEWIS JERRY (R-CA) 1 LIEBERMAN EVELYN 1 MARTIN KATE 1 MCDADE JOSEPH M (R-PA) 1 METZGER EUGENE J 1 MILLER CASSIDY LARROCA LEWIN 1 MORGENTHAU ROBERT MORRIS 1 NAKLEH ISSA 1 OWENS WILLIAM A (ADM) 1 PAINTER RICHARD 1 PENNY TIMOTHY J (D-MN) 1 PURDUE RILEY 1 RENO JANET 1 RICHELSON JEFFREY T 1 ROY JAMES STAPLETON 1 RYAN JOHN E (RTC) 1 RYAN MARY A 1 SAFIRE WILLIAM L 1 SCHNEIDER WILLIAM JR 1 SCOWCROFT BRENT 1 SMITH GARY L 1 STEELE ROBERT DAVID 1 STEPHENS INC 1 STEPHENS JACKSON THOMAS 1 STERN GERALD 1 STUDEMAN WILLIAM O (ADM) 1 SYSTEMATICS INC (LITTLE ROCK) 1 TURNER RICHARD G 1 VAJDA WILLIAM E 1 WARNER MARVIN 1 YOUNG C.W.(BILL) (R-FL) 1

61 posted on 04/15/2004 8:51:42 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
Yep, a big web. Ashcroft sure threw a big stick at the web didn't he!
65 posted on 04/16/2004 4:20:47 AM PDT by philman_36
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