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Coverup of Saudi plot to keep the Middle East Boiling
E-mail | 5.21.2002 | John Loftus

Posted on 05/21/2002 9:45:09 AM PDT by FreeReporting

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To: FreeReporting
www.islamonline.net is a good source to get your blood pressure up and keep tabs on what the enemy is thinking. It's basically arab propaganda written in a nice moderate style. I've posted a few articles from there. Some of the newsreports can be newsworthy, like this one New US base on Iran's border
21 posted on 05/21/2002 10:59:48 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: FreeReporting
There is no more knowledgeable or reliable source on this subject than John Loftus.
22 posted on 05/21/2002 10:59:58 AM PDT by NCDoc
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To: FreeReporting
Oh, forgot -- Our friends, the Saudis.
23 posted on 05/21/2002 11:00:18 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: skip2myloo
We won't trade with Cuba because Castro forbids democracy.

Other than cigars, there isn't much Cuba has that we need anyway. But while the oil nations of the Middle East lack democracy, the principal export of Castro for the last 60 years was revolution in the Western Hemisphere. Granted, most of this has been blunted, particularly due to the collapse of his Soviet sponsors. But Castro appears to remain the same old unrepentant Communist.

But, having said this, even if trade with Cuba will fatten Castro's Swiss bank account, trade with the US would have to eventually expand the economy of Cuba, and create internal pressures to reform both the politics and the economics of the country. I'm not as resistent to the idea of trade with Cuba than our government is.

24 posted on 05/21/2002 11:14:34 AM PDT by My2Cents
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I posted this on another thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/686868/posts

it won’t hurt to repeat it here:

The U.S. "embargo" on Cuba has not been effective in bringing about democratic reforms for more than 43 years.

WHY ??

It's simple. Americans are either arrogant, or naive (or both), to believe that we are the only country on the face of the earth that can trade effectively with Cuba. Cuba can export any product it wishes to any other nation on the face of the earth except the U.S., and that is exactly what it does.

Cuba sells abroad all the cigars, sugar and rum it can produce. It doesn't have much else.

On the other hand, Cuba can buy all the consumer and industrial goods in can afford from Europe, Asia, Canada and Brazil. Because Cuba doesn't sell much abroad, it can't buy much abroad. It's called balance of trade. In reality, it doesn't much matter whether the U.S. is part of the equation or not.

What Dodd, Carter et al mean by "trade with Cuba" is for U.S. companies like Sara Lee, Levi Strauss and others to exploit cheap human labor in that poor impoverished country, just like they do in the rest of Latin America.

Cubans don't have the money to buy John Deere tractors irrespective of the embargo. But, if John Deere opened a manufacturing plant there, they could pay Cubans a whopping dollar an hour. That would enbable John Deere to sell its tractors more competitvely around the world, and bring dollars home to America.

I wonder if the Democrat-oriented labor unions know what their champions like Dodd, and others are really attempting to do by "opening trade" with Cuba ??

25 posted on 05/21/2002 11:31:47 AM PDT by skip2myloo
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We won't trade with Cuba because Castro forbids democracy.

Oh, I forgot to mention, King Fahad ibn Abdulaziz Al Saud forbids democracy in Saudi Arabia.

Which returns me to my original point – clearly America has no unwavering core value regarding the necessity for our allies to practice democracy.

Like anything else, I guess it's negotiable.

26 posted on 05/21/2002 11:52:07 AM PDT by skip2myloo
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To: Thud
ping received

marked - thanks

28 posted on 05/21/2002 1:15:11 PM PDT by Phil V.
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To: FreeReporting; Thud
Analysis / Bush sending Burns on a shuttle mission
29 posted on 05/21/2002 1:29:26 PM PDT by Phil V.
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Until the traitorist Saudi cabal in the State Department is removed en masse, this country will continued to be mortally threatened and the people will be shielded from the truth.

The Saudi-paid traitors in our government (and private sector) are as great a threat to this nation as Cold War Communists ever were.

All politicians should boycott the following Saudi-paid consultants and media advisors this election cycle:
Qovis Communications
Sandler-Innocenzi
Patton Boggs
Hill and Knowlton
Burson-Marsteller
Lobbyist Jamie Gallagher

30 posted on 05/25/2002 10:12:49 PM PDT by montag813
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