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TWA Flight 800 - "Our Must See Video"
Accuracy In Media ^ | 7 May 2002 | Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 05/07/2002 10:59:01 AM PDT by Asmodeus

Our Must-See Video
By Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid
May 7, 2002

In a recent commentary, we talked about a new book, Into the Buzzsaw. It’s about the experiences of several journalists who challenged the government and/or their media bosses, and were either fired or discredited for it. Of particular interest to us are the chapters by journalists who looked into the crash of TWA Flight 800, which blew up off the coast of Long Island in 1996, killing all 230 aboard. The book was edited by Kristina Borjesson, a former Emmy winning CBS producer and reporter, who also wrote the title essay based on her own experience.

Borjesson is very hard on her former CBS colleagues. She details her involvement in attempting to publicize various aspects of the TWA 800 story, and her dismay at how CBS dealt with it. Ultimately she was fired for persisting with the evidence that pointed to a missile bringing the plane down. She criticizes CBS reporter Bob Orr, who, she says "was invested in the mechanical malfunction theory because he didn’t want to contradict the sources that he depended on to do his job."

She calls Dan Rather’s comments dismissing the missile theory, "just plain inappropriate," and adds that when he made them, he "took off his journalist’s hat and became a communications officer for the government."

She also has rather harsh assessments of some other CBS producers and executives, saying "there was no way CBS was going to air a story that would rile the Pentagon,".

We experience the buzzsaw all the time, but are basically immune to it. Our jobs and livelihood aren’t threatened by it. In fact, in a sense, it is our reason for being, and the reason the public supports our work. To challenge the government and the media to tell the truth, to ignore their biases and report evidence to the public that will help them understand what really happened in matters such as TWA 800 and the death of Deputy White House Counsel Vincent Foster.

We have recently faced the same buzzsaw in trying to air a new documentary called "TWA 800: The Search for the Truth," financed by AIM and produced and written by a member of our staff, Roger Aronoff and his associate, Jack Harris.

No one from the many networks it was presented to said it wasn’t good enough. Just that it didn’t fit with their programming needs. As a matter of fact it has just won the Platinum Award for Best Documentary in the category of Investigative Journalism at the Houston International Film Festival.

It is a powerful and balanced look at what caused TWA 800 to explode. The correspondent is Reid Collins, a 30-year veteran of CBS and CNN.

It is balanced in that it gives a fair hearing to the government theory of a spark from an unknown source causing the center-wing fuel tank to explode, but it also explores the compelling evidence that the plane was shot down by a missile, and that the government engaged in a massive cover-up to hide the truth.

Presenting the award, the director described the video as one you must see. It exposes the government’s cover-up. Go to our web site, www.aim.org to find out how you can get it.

Reed Irvine can be reached at ri@aim.org

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To: Asmodeus
We have recently faced the same buzzsaw in trying to air a new documentary called "TWA 800: The Search for the Truth," financed by AIM and produced and written by a member of our staff, Roger Aronoff and his associate, Jack Harris.

No one from the many networks it was presented to said it wasn’t good enough. Just that it didn’t fit with their programming needs."

Didn't this same thing happen with the Waco videos.....

21 posted on 05/07/2002 12:13:28 PM PDT by SW6906
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To: Redheaded Stepchild
I think not...it's simply a matter of Flight 800 threads being tired and banal.
22 posted on 05/07/2002 12:14:04 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: LouD
Downside Legacy Research Project- TWA 800

On the above thread (although a trip to the final copy at the DSL may be an easier read) We started a discussion about how TWA800 could indeed have been shot down by a RAM missile and possibly gunfire.

Turns out there were 2 clinton enemies on board to throw some extra excitement into the mix.

I highly recommend reading the whole DSL thread on it. I'll link it here in a moment.

God Save America (Please)

23 posted on 05/07/2002 12:17:28 PM PDT by John O
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To: infowars
Where's the video footage?
24 posted on 05/07/2002 12:19:51 PM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: sultan88;scholar;mudboy slim; goldilucky
"She details her involvement in attempting to publicize various aspects of the TWA 800 story, and her dismay at how CBS dealt with it."

Really?
What'd this journalist think of how SeeBS handled the Sink Emporer's many *other* shenanigans?
Say the rape allegation(s) at Oxford (or here stateside for that matter), Ron Brown's assassination, Bernard Schwartz's Red Chinese connection(s), or any other number of criminal conspiracies the Bent1's suspected of being complicit in??
I feel her pain; no really, I *do*.

"Ultimately she was fired for persisting with the evidence that pointed to a missile bringing the plane down."

She's awfully lucky to be alive; IF, she's even telling the truth.
Which I highly doubt...

"She criticizes CBS reporter Bob Orr, who, she says 'was invested in the mechanical malfunction theory because he didn’t want to contradict the sources that he depended on to do his job.'"

Tell her to talk with Bernard Goldberg.
That SeeBS *sells* "news" to fit templates that're easily marketed in 3 minute commercial spots?
Hey, that's our illustrious Lamestream for ya, eh?!!

"She calls Dan Rather’s comments dismissing the missile theory, 'just plain inappropriate, and adds that when he made them, he 'took off his journalist’s hat and became a communications officer for the government.'"

"*Just* plain inappropriate"??
Oh for the love of humanity; the horror!
Do ya think, geniuse?
{g}

"She also has rather harsh assessments of some other CBS producers and executives, saying 'there was no way CBS was going to air a story that would rile the Pentagon.'"

*Pentagon*?
How 'bout the Sink Emporer?
Screw the *Pentagon*.
This gal hasn't a clue.

"In fact, in a sense, it is our reason for being, and the reason the public supports our work. To challenge the government and the media to tell the truth, to ignore their biases and report evidence to the public that will help them understand what really happened in matters such as TWA 800 and the death of Deputy White House Counsel Vincent Foster."

Show us where the media did any of that, Ms. Jaws.
YOU just failed the "Smell Test," sweetypie.
Back into your box.

"We have recently faced the same buzzsaw in trying to air a new documentary called 'TWA 800: The Search for the Truth,' financed by AIM and produced and written by a member of our staff, Roger Aronoff and his associate, Jack Harris."

An INFORMERCIAL!!!
There *it* is; motive -- for all the hand wringing & phoney demands for justice.
~An AD!!
Does it get any cheaper, sleezier, flimsy than that!!
Chutzpah!!

"No one from the many networks it was presented to said it wasn’t good enough. Just that it didn’t fit with their programming needs. As a matter of fact it has just won the Platinum Award for Best Documentary in the category of Investigative Journalism at the Houston International Film Festival."

There's the reason for the whining, too.
The "There before the Grace of God go I" piousness is quite nearly enough to make me vomit.
"Houston International Film Festival"???
Only thing in Houston I know of, is a guy I once knew; and, he's a certified *nut*.

"It is a powerful and balanced look at what caused TWA 800 to explode. The correspondent is Reid Collins, a 30-year veteran of CBS and CNN."

BWWWAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA -- hehehe!!!!
...that's *rich*!

"It is balanced in that it gives a fair hearing to the government theory of a spark from an unknown source causing the center-wing fuel tank to explode, but it also explores the compelling evidence that the plane was shot down by a missile, and that the government engaged in a massive cover-up to hide the truth."

Love?
Your *credability* has been gone the way of the dinosaurs since at least 1995.
But welcome to the future, anyway!!

"Presenting the award, the director described the video as one you must see. It exposes the government’s cover-up. Go to our web site, www.aim.org to find out how you can get it."

People?
Know what a shill, "is"??
Well, this one's a hum-dinger.
Think I'll just pass on this day-late & a dollar short *documentary*.

"Borjesson is very hard on her former CBS colleagues."

...not nearly hard enough to prove to me you're the real McCoy, Ms. Borjesson.

25 posted on 05/07/2002 12:24:29 PM PDT by Landru
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To: NCDoc
"Several passengers sitting forward of the wing were riddled by shrapnel. It's on record. Those over the wing, and the center fuel tank, which supposedly exploded, were not. That shrapnel had to have come from a high velocity explosion that took place somewhere in the vicinity of the foreward part of the aircraft."

Here's the quote your garbled translation arose out of::

"FBI agents were here and standing with us while we were doing the autopsies and taking the shrapnel that we found," said Dr. Charles Wetli of the Suffolk County Medical Examiner. "Virtually all of the bodies had shrapnel."

Was Dr. Wetli referring to military shrapnel? Or simply pieces of metal? Which is routinely found embedded in the bodies of virtually all those killed in jetliner crashes.

If all the victims of Flight 800 had military shrapnel embedded in their bodies, the wreckage would have been riddled from nose to tail. How do you explain the testimony of FBI whistleblower Tobin?

27 posted on 05/07/2002 12:28:24 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: RaceBannon
I find the electrical system theory faulty myself. I used to be in aviation, and have personnaly witnessed lit matches thrown into buckets of JP-5. No flame, the matches went out.

Point taken. However, I thought the center tank was empty which would mean it was full of explosive vapors, not liquid fuel.

I used to work for a company which is a leader in arc science, and in the prevention of arcing faults. Our scientists and engineers pretty much all subscribed to the arcing fault theory. Having seen a number of demonstrations in the lab, I can understand how it might have happened that way. Of course, I readily admit that this is entirely conjectural - as are the other theories I've heard.

28 posted on 05/07/2002 12:29:36 PM PDT by LouD
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To: Redheaded Stepchild
Oh! You're soooo funny!

Get over it. I'm sure all the normally adjusted "friends and family" have.

29 posted on 05/07/2002 12:29:59 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Landru
.....No one from the many networks it was presented to said it wasn’t good enough. Just that it didn’t fit with their programming needs........

That should just about explain newspeak for ya.

30 posted on 05/07/2002 12:31:23 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: John O
So, who were the two Clinton enemies on board T.W.A. 800, please? This is the first time I've heard this story.
31 posted on 05/07/2002 12:34:02 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: LouD;alamo-girl
DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON
SECTION: REMEMBERING THE DEAD
SUBSECTION: TWA800 –– RESEARCH PROJECT

Here's the final thread, combined and organized by the incomparable Alamo-Girl

This thread covers the naval assets and weaponry in the area, the radar plots, the wreckage patterns, clinton enemies on board, witnesses and their locations, and a host of other related issues. It's quite long but worth the read.

GSA(P)

32 posted on 05/07/2002 12:34:08 PM PDT by John O
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To: Redheaded Stepchild
Furthermore, where did I say that I disbelieved anything in the article?

I'm just sick of hearing about the same old thing over and over and over and over again. It's been run into the ground...like JFK conspiracy books.

33 posted on 05/07/2002 12:34:27 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Diogenesis
I am so glad you found this stupid photo, I have been looking for it for months, there's a similar one that was in the NY daily news or ny post which shows the two ))holes at a cocktail party.
34 posted on 05/07/2002 12:35:42 PM PDT by eartotheground
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To: infowars
"The video footage clearly shows it was shot down by a missile."

Nobody has yet been able to prove there was ever any such "shootdown" video even though nearly six years have now gone by. Can you?

Truth is always dependent on facts - not suspicions, speculations, allegations or accusations.

35 posted on 05/07/2002 12:37:24 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: MAWG
First one was named Ferrat. Was supposed to be on Ron Browns flight but cancelled at last minute. Then took out a large amount of life insurance. More info on the link in above post. Second one was Gray. Involved via Web Hubbel and Progressive (some sort of financial organization). Again more data on referenced thread.

GSA(P)

36 posted on 05/07/2002 12:38:01 PM PDT by John O
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To: Dixie republican
"Does the book suggest that out forces shot the plane down? If not, why would the government hide it?"

As another person pointed out a few days after 9/11, if only one airplane had crashed into the WTC, would we not have been told that it was an accident?

38 posted on 05/07/2002 12:47:46 PM PDT by Deguello
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To: Deguello
"As another person pointed out a few days after 9/11, if only one airplane had crashed into the WTC, would we not have been told that it was an accident?"

Truth is always dependent on facts - not suspicions, speculations, allegations or accusations.

And this thread is about TWA 800 - not the events of 9/11.

39 posted on 05/07/2002 1:11:50 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
On the night TWA800 went down I saw Wolf Blitzer on CNN. He was then White House Correspondent. In the midst of the coverage frenzy of bad video from Moriches, Bernie Shaw threw the cue to Blitzer who announced that Clinton would speak to the nation from the Oval Office at 10PM. The time at this point was abou 845. Clinton never made it to the TUBE that evening. When Blitzer made his statement my wife and I were sure this had to be terrorism. When has a President gone on TV about a simple, if tragic, plane crash. Finally during the week after 9/11 Stephanopolous was speaking about terrorist acts and ticked off a few, like WTC1, OKC, and TWA 800. Slip of the tongue from the man who was press sec the night of TWA 800?
40 posted on 05/07/2002 1:28:29 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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