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SKIPPING COMMERCIALS IS STEALING ACCORDING TO TURNER CEO
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Posted on 05/02/2002 6:45:29 AM PDT by Grig

It was inevitable. The broadcast industry is now describing people who skip over commercials as thieves! And with new technology like HDTV and insane laws such as the DMCA, they may very well make it stick in the future.

Jamie Kellner is the chairman and CEO of Turner Broadcasting, which encompasses everything from CNN to TNT and is a part of AOL Time Warner. On Monday, an interview with Kellner appeared in CableWorld.

In response to a question on why personal video recorders (PVR's) were bad for the industry, Kellner responded: "Because of the ad skips.... It's theft. Your contract with the network when you get the show is you're going to watch the spots. Otherwise you couldn't get the show on an ad-supported basis. Any time you skip a commercial or watch the button you're actually stealing the programming."

While most programming on American TV is so insultingly bad that nobody would ever need to steal it in the first place, there is great danger in permitting this line of reasoning to become accepted. If this is seen as a "problem," expect legislation forbidding any device that allows consumers to skip the sacred commercial. Kellner, however, is not completely unreasonable. When asked if he considers people who go to the bathroom during a commercial to be thieves, he responded: "I guess there's a certain amount of tolerance for going to the bathroom. But if you formalize it and you create a device that skips certain second increments, you've got that only for one reason, unless you go to the bathroom for 30 seconds. They've done that just to make it easy for someone to skip a commercial." Heaven forbid.

The text of the entire interview can be found at http://www.inside.com/product/product.asp?entity=CableWorld&pf_ID=7A2ACA71-FAAD-41FC-A100-0B8A11C30373.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: aoltimewarner; cnn; dmca; turner; tv
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I didn't sign any contract to watch commercials. Next they well tell you that you have to watch all the shows too.

And I'm still going to go to the can or fridge when I feel like it. The DMCA has got to go. This is just nuts.

1 posted on 05/02/2002 6:45:30 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig
Your contract with the network when you get the show is you're going to watch the spots.

Am I guilty of theft when I get up to take a piss during commercials or go to the fridge to get a drink?

Am I guilty of grand larceny when I change channels during commericals in an attempt to watch 3, 4, or 5 shows at once?

2 posted on 05/02/2002 6:49:58 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Grig
"I'm still going to go to the can or fridge "

Focus man!!
Do not get confused!
A targeting error can have high collateral damage.

3 posted on 05/02/2002 6:50:07 AM PDT by APBaer
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To: Grig
DMCA and its spawn-of-Satan cousins is some of teh worst law ever formulated. Basically, it codifies allowing Hollywood to hack your computer and makes a felon out of you for trying to stop them. DMCA supporters are EVIL.
4 posted on 05/02/2002 6:51:32 AM PDT by eno_
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To: Grig
Any time you skip a commercial or watch the button you're actually stealing the programming."

SHEESH, so when I hop into the shower during commercials I'm also stealing?? These network people are sheer idiots.

5 posted on 05/02/2002 6:51:53 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Grig
Then following that line of logic it's also stealing when I change the channel and watch another show to avoid the commercials.

I almost hope they make a case out of this, it'd make me read more which is something I should be doing anyway.

6 posted on 05/02/2002 6:54:02 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Grig
I suppose we could have a toilet installed in the den or wherever we watch TV. You could disguise it as a regular chair. Are we stealing if we channel surf during the commercial? What if your mind wanders--would that be stealing?
7 posted on 05/02/2002 6:54:38 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Grig
All your commercials are belong to us
8 posted on 05/02/2002 6:54:47 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: Grig
Hey Kellner, here's a preview of coming attractions...Power off, CLICK!

Now, go explain to your advertisers what a dumba$$, arrogant jerk you are.

9 posted on 05/02/2002 6:55:40 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: Grig
"When asked if he considers people who go to the bathroom during a commercial to be thieves, he responded: 'I guess there's a certain amount of tolerance for going to the bathroom. But if you formalize it and you create a device that skips certain second increments, you've got that only for one reason, unless you go to the bathroom for 30 seconds. They've done that just to make it easy for someone to skip a commercial.' Heaven forbid"

LOL...mighty white of him to "allow" me to go to the bathroom during the commercial break.

Now: when they can create and enforce a law which will prevent me from jumping up and checking on supper, checking/filling the woodstove, or continuing with reading whatever book I'm reading (the only way to watch TV, as far as I'm concerned, is with a good book) THEN they might also be able to prevent me from not watching hundreds of simpleminded commercials for Viagra, hemorrhoid preperations, yeast infection cures and tampon commercials a day.

Not bloody likely, though.

This post at least deserves a wry humor BUMP

10 posted on 05/02/2002 6:59:27 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Grig
What a bunch of punkass liberals...whine...they're lucky people watch at all. Technology will make them irrelevant anyway. gee, what has aoltimewarner stock been doing lately, anyhow?
11 posted on 05/02/2002 7:00:06 AM PDT by galt-jw
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To: APBaer
A targeting error can have high collateral damage.

I only did that once, dammit, and that was a long time ago, so lay off, alright?

;)

12 posted on 05/02/2002 7:01:50 AM PDT by general_re
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Am I guilty of theft when I get up to take a piss during commercials or go to the fridge to get a drink?

According to Ted the commie Turner you are! Have you read about the laws that hollyweird are trying to ram through the Congress with the help of Sinator Hollings? It would ruin the computer and hardware market. These jerks want to make it so you can never own any music or movie, just rent it and pay for it each and every time you watch or listen to it, forever!

13 posted on 05/02/2002 7:06:03 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Phantom Lord
Am I guilty of theft when I get up to take a piss during commercials . . . ?

Get one of these and park it in front of the idiot box:


14 posted on 05/02/2002 7:07:35 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Grig
The reasoning is so absurd it should be given wide publicity, with all of the reductio ad absurdam examples anyone can think of. Ridicule is the best weapon against this.
15 posted on 05/02/2002 7:07:38 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: Phantom Lord
Am I guilty of theft when I get up to take a piss during commercials or go to the fridge to get a drink?

Shoot, commericials are so much louder than regular programming, I bet you can still hear them while taking a, er um, can out the fridge.

16 posted on 05/02/2002 7:09:31 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: 1Old Pro, brytani
uhoh !

Brytani, you're in deep doodoo !

fofl

17 posted on 05/02/2002 7:09:34 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Grig
This low life thief flies his corporate jet just to avoid the bridge and turnpike tolls, and I'll bet he avoids paying his housemate for services rendered.
18 posted on 05/02/2002 7:13:11 AM PDT by Ender@Game.now
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To: Phantom Lord
Am I guilty of theft when I get up to take a piss during commercials or go to the fridge to get a drink?
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They're developing a chip that will lock the crapper's seat down and the reefer's door closed during the commercial breaks.
19 posted on 05/02/2002 7:14:12 AM PDT by night reader
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To: Grig
Hey, Ted--free speech includes the right not to listen!
20 posted on 05/02/2002 7:16:36 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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