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No Case Vs. Man Who Knew Hijackers (BULL! Case thrown out on outrageous technicality)
AP via Yahoo! ^ | Tue Apr 30,12:29 PM ET | LARRY NEUMEISTER

Posted on 04/30/2002 9:54:01 PM PDT by Spar

No Case Vs. Man Who Knew Hijackers

Tue Apr 30,12:29 PM ET

By LARRY NEUMEISTER, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - A federal judge threw out a perjury indictment Tuesday against a Jordanian college student who knew two alleged Sept. 11 hijackers, citing errors made when investigators applied for an arrest warrant.

U.S. District Judge Shira Scheindlin dismissed the indictment after concluding that Osama Awadallah, 21, was unlawfully arrested after he was taken from his San Diego home several days after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

"Awadallah was effectively seized," she wrote.

Scheindlin said that federal statute does not authorize the detention of material witnesses for a grand jury investigation. It was not immediately clear what effect such a ruling could have on dozens of material witnesses held since the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon (news - web sites).

"We believe the court's opinions are wrong on the fact and the law and we are reviewing our appellate options," U.S. Attorney James B. Comey said in a statement.

A message left with a lawyer for Awadallah was not immediately returned.

The judge also threw out evidence seized after Awadallah, a student at Grossmont College in El Cajon, Calif., was taken into custody on Sept. 21. The evidence included videotapes and a picture of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites).

The judge cited several factors showing that Awadallah's consent to go with FBI (news - web sites) agents to their office and later submit to a lie detector test was the "product of duress or coercion."

She said the agents repeatedly made a show of force by telling him he could not drive his own car, frisking him, refusing to let him inside his apartment and ordering him to keep a door open as he urinated. Moreover, she said, one agent threatened to "tear up" the apartment if he did get a warrant.

Agents also failed to tell Awadallah he had a constitutional right to refuse any searches when they asked him to sign a form consenting to a search, the judge said.

Awadallah was charged with perjury for allegedly lying about his knowledge of one of the men blamed for the suicide attack on the Pentagon.

In grand jury appearances, Awadallah admitted meeting alleged hijacker Nawaf al-Hazmi 30 to 40 times but denied knowing associate Khalid al-Mihdhar. Confronted with an exam booklet in which he had written the name Khalid, he later admitted he knew both of them.

If convicted, Awadallah could have faced up to 10 years in prison.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 911; awadallah; balkans; bosnia; immigrantlist; terrorists; terrorwar
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To: Spar
I ask again, what does this "sloppy" police work that have to do with the crime he was charged with? Perjury of his grand jury testimony?

His testomony is irrelevant because it was given under an illegal detention. Thats what the judge said.

61 posted on 05/01/2002 10:59:11 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
and this judge is saying that all detentions are illegal now regardless of how they were detained.


62 posted on 05/01/2002 11:04:27 AM PDT by Spar
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To: FreeTally
and this judge is saying that all detentions are illegal now regardless of how they were detained.

JUDGE RIPS MATERIAL WITNESS JAILINGS "cannot be used to imprison potential grand jury witnesses"

63 posted on 05/01/2002 11:05:21 AM PDT by Spar
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To: realpatriot71
Well done against the knee jerks.

As you say, their straw man debate tactics only highlight their lack of basic constitutional principles.
-- Freeing this terrorist sympathizing punk on constitutional grounds is a win for individual freedom, & for a free republic, ---- and a loss for authoritarians.

That loss is the jerks real problem.

64 posted on 05/01/2002 11:05:38 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
I am the last one to be accused on free republic as pro govt. None of the applicable constitutional rights were violated here. He was awitness to the grand jury and he perjured himself. Now the question arises was he illegaly detained. No, but we shall see on appeal (if one comes).
65 posted on 05/01/2002 11:10:15 AM PDT by Spar
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To: general_re
In such a situation, I would have treated him as an agent of the enemy, and held him as a prisoner of war

I'm no lawyer, but prisoner of war status is for uniformed soldiers of organized military, not enemy agents in plain clothes working under cover. This guy was a saboteur and spy, or aided those who where. He doesn't deserve prisoner of war status. He deserves summary trial and execution, or a long prison sentence, just like the Nazi spies in WWII.

66 posted on 05/01/2002 11:13:17 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Spar
And if the appeals court finds that he was not unlawfully detained, so be it. Right now, all we have to go on is what this one judge is saying, but there will inevitably be an appeal.
67 posted on 05/01/2002 11:16:03 AM PDT by general_re
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To: Spar
I guess, fellow jerks, Justice Arthur Goldberg was wrong and the Contitution is a suicide pact after all. Why, Miranda Rights are right there, Article number whatchamacallit. Police work procedures? Just check your copy of the Bill of Rights, fellow jerks!
68 posted on 05/01/2002 11:16:26 AM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: Travis McGee
"any difference between American citizens and foreign arab muslim "students" "

IMHO you've found the fault in her ruling.

Even if one believed aliens had full Constitutional rights (which I don't btw- but that is beside the point), it would still be reasonable to assume, prima facie, that there is a high risk of flight by an alien.

69 posted on 05/01/2002 11:17:39 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: BigBobber
I think we're basically in agreement - that's almost exactly what happened in WWII, and that's more or less what I'm talking about. German saboteurs were captured in the US, held as prisoners of war, tried before a military tribunal, and sentenced. I see no reason things should be different here.
70 posted on 05/01/2002 11:18:59 AM PDT by general_re
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To: Lancey Howard
Anybody got background on this sick scumbag, Scheindlin? I'm guessing a Clinton appointment.

Gee, how'd you guess?

Did a search -- the Honorable Judge Scheindlin was appointed by Bubba himself

71 posted on 05/01/2002 11:19:25 AM PDT by Smedley
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To: Spar
and this judge is saying that all detentions are illegal now regardless of how they were detained.

Yes, because the "Material Witness" rule does not apply to grand jury investigations. Its spelled out in black in white. Its not even a "technicality".

I got into this discussion yesterday on another thread. I will say the same thing: If they wanted to detain these people as "terrorists" under sedition laws, and they had proof, then I would have no problem. But don't manipulate the law to one's liking to detain whoever for an indefinite period.

72 posted on 05/01/2002 11:20:18 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: Spar
Judge Spar, your honor, sir.......what courtroom do you sit in?
73 posted on 05/01/2002 11:21:07 AM PDT by Rowdee
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To: mrsmith
FYI, a freeper posted yesterday that the student in question is a naturalized American citizen. I don't have any proof, but that is what a freeper said.
74 posted on 05/01/2002 11:21:37 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: general_re
Going from memory here, but I think you're mistaken. The Nazi saboteurs were not prisoners of war. They were tried as spies. Prisoners of war do not normally get tried for anything, and certainly not executed, unless they are guilty of war crimes. On the other hand, that is the normal fate for spies.
75 posted on 05/01/2002 11:28:44 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Spar
And your law license is from......?

As I recall, the other article, posted yesterday, indicated the Judge in this case looked to the legislative intent when Congress made this law; as I recall, it said the law was narrowly written and defined; and the Judge said that it was not intended that people be held for grand jury purposes or whatever the devil her exact words were.

Sorry, if that doesn't comport to your idea of justice.....

Further, she also wrote up or said something about there being four (4) friskings of this person.......seeing as how your masculinie traits appear to be called into question, at least in your own mind, you'd probably consider the four friskings as 'pleasant or stimulating' rather than 'intimidating'.

76 posted on 05/01/2002 11:29:58 AM PDT by Rowdee
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To: FreeTally
"a naturalized American citizen"

Gee, the article called him "a Jordanian"... by now I should know better than to believe what I read.
:-)

If he's a citizen, then of course the government should have had to convince a judge of their case for holding him.

77 posted on 05/01/2002 11:31:33 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: BigBobber
I was working from memory also, but looking it up, it's close enough for me.

Ex Parte Quirin - I think I'm pretty much okay in my reading of it ;)

78 posted on 05/01/2002 11:35:46 AM PDT by general_re
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To: Travis McGee
Don't you see any difference between American citizens and foreign arab muslim "students" who venerate Osama after 9-11, and who knew several of the 9-11 terrorists very well?

I suspect he may have been a citizen. If not, they probably wouldn't have had to resort to the "material witness" ploy to hold him, I'm sure they could have found some immigration reason.

The police work seems sloppy, both the misuse of the material witness law and the coersion into a search (why not get a warrant?). That said, I don't see where the perjury flowed from those actions.

79 posted on 05/01/2002 11:44:25 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: Rowdee
You sound like a hysterical soccer mom.....

LOL!!
Are you another one of those a-wipes who would worry about every "cross-the-T-and-dot-the-I" provision of the liberal, make-believe version of the Constitution - - such as "Miranda rights" - - before you would take any action in the face of imminent terrorist threats? Again, I am glad that people like you are playing with themselves in their libertarian sandboxes, and not involved in national security.

Look real hard and I bet you can find the "right to privacy" in there somewhere, too, LOFL.

80 posted on 05/01/2002 11:54:08 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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