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To: Mark Bahner
They would, and did, support such "vice" laws at the local and state level. They were absolutely opposed to such laws at the federal level. That is plain from a simple reading of the Constitution. The ONLY crimes Congress is given the authority to determine punishment are treason and counterfeiting (crimes against the United States), piracy (crimes that occur outside of the territory of any other country) and crimes against the "law of nations" (as in counterfeiting ANOTHER country's currency...which would make the U.S. a "bad neighbor" if it did not prosecute).

Well, I think we are in agreement on the drugs issue. I agree that the federal government has no basis to ajudicate or create new federal crimes (including illicit drug-related offenses) in addition to those listed in the Constitution. However, I would make an exception for abortion, where our current liberal activist Supreme Court has unconstitutionally legislated from the bench and overturned the abortion laws of all 50 states requiring that the crime of abortion be made legal everywhere in the country. I would support an overturn of Roe v. Wade, but ideally I would support a congressionally passed federal ban on abortions except to save the life of the mother. The Supreme Court has already done to much damage to our state legal system to reverse the damage done by Roe v. Wade.
53 posted on 04/29/2002 8:29:46 AM PDT by rightwing2
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To: rightwing2
I agree that the federal government has no basis to ajudicate or create new federal crimes (including illicit drug-related offenses) in addition to those listed in the Constitution.

So far, so good...

However, I would make an exception for abortion,...

Oy, vey! The very next sentence! This is what makes you a "conservative" and why I am offended when people (including conservatives) insist all Libertarians must also be "conservatives."

Two wrongs, never, never, NEVER make a right! You just got done saying that the federal government should not legislate on crimes not in the Constitution, and then--in the very next sentence! :-(-- you want them to legislate on a crime not in the Constitution!

I have a better suggestion...why not simply follow the @#$% law?! The problem that you identify can be LEGALLY addressed in 2 ways, 1) a majority of Supreme Court justices can be found to overturn Roe vs Wade, or 2) a Constitutional amendment can be passed, like the 13th Amendment that prohibitted slavery.

The "problem" with solution #2 (from your perspective, not mine!) is that you will almost certainly NEVER have the public (more accurately, Congressional and state legislature) support for a Constitutional amendment banning abortion.

Since you can't find that support, you instead support federal officials violating The Law (the Constitution). That is so very bad, and sooo annoying (to those of us who want the Constitution to be followed). Your (and others') "solution" to the various "problems" has led us to the point where these United States are no longer governed by the Rule of Law. We are now ruled by men and women.

54 posted on 04/29/2002 2:12:50 PM PDT by Mark Bahner
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