Come "crush" us some more. "
Fight against the good old United States of America and I kill you dead.
And let us now honor: William Tecumseh Sherman 
Posted on 04/23/2002 7:02:53 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
No one made any apologies Monday for flying the Confederate flag. No one made any apologies for singing Dixie and no one made any apologies for remembering those who fought for the gray.
The annual Confederate Memorial Day ceremony held on the square in Troy was sparsely attended, and, some said there should have been some apologies for that, but those in attendance made no apologies for being there.
"Those who fought for the gray were men who wanted to take care of their children or their mamas," said Ronnie Simmons, past division commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. "They were men who wanted to take care of their crops and be left alone. But, they took up arms and fought for a cause that was right. We don't need to apologize for them. I'm proud of those who went out and fought. I'm proud of those who wore the gray."
Simmons was the guest speaker at the Confederate Memorial Day Ceremony and said tribute should be made to all of those who fought for the Confederacy.
"They were all Confederate soldiers," he said. "Regardless of race or religion, they all wore the gray and they should be honored."
Simmons said there were those of Jewish faith who fought for the Confederacy. There were many blacks who chose to fight for the South and some women. A black man, who was fighting for the Confederacy, was captured by Union soldiers, Simmons said, and the Union soldiers asked him why he was fighting for the South.
"He told them that he had a right to fight for his country," Simmons said. "The South was his country and he was willing to take up arms to defend it. And, there were accounts of women who disguised themselves as men and fought for their South. Five women were among the Confederate causalities at Gettysburg. These men and women fought - and died - with honor. We must honor them."
Simmons said Jefferson Davis was asked why he fought for the gray and he said he did it because it was "right."
"The South had a right to withdraw from the union if it so chose," he said. "It was their right, but they had to fight for that right. The South had no government, no postal service, no army, no transportation system, but they fought because it was right and we honor those men and women here today, because it is right."
Southerners didn't even have enough to feed and care for their own.
What was the Northerners excuse?
Article I, Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress</b. No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
Article IV, Section 3 - New States New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.
It's pretty clear that congressional approval is required for any state to change it's boundaries, why would it be any different with it's nationality?
There was plenty of food in Georgia. Sherman's 60,000 men couldn't begin to eat it all or even carry it. One corps burned 50,000 bushels of corn in one day.
Walt
Here's the entire quote.
"In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strong for the former. The blacks are immeasureably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially, & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.BTW. Here’s what Lee had to say about secession. Do you agree with him on that as well?
Secession is nothing but revolution. The framers of our constitution never exhausted so much labor, wisdom, and forbearance in its formation, and surrounded it with so many guards and securities, if it was intended to be broken by every member of the Confederacy at will. It was intended for "perpetual union" so expressed in the preamble, and for the establishment of a government, not a compact, which can only be dissolved by revolution, or the consent of all the people in convention assembled. It is idle to talk of secession. Anarchy would have been established, and not a government, by Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson, Madison, and the other patriots of the Revolution."
Robert E. Lee --- Jan., 1861.
Ironic that a man who thought that slavery was "moral and political evil" and that secession was "nothing but revolution" chose the side that made slavery its cornerstone and fasly claimed a right to seceed at will.
And before you mention slaves they didn't care about them either.
Yeah, sure Whiskey, sure.. that's why the Confederates was near starved. Why they just like watchin all that good grub grow and couldn't stand the thought a actually eatin it.
Wonder how much an invading army of rebs would a found in New York... say around camp Elmira?
It's quite all right, sir.
Deo Vindice!
Fight against the good old United States of America and I kill you dead.
And let us now honor: William Tecumseh Sherman
"I will say then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races; that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people."
Then he went on to say:
"And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."
Whatcha think there, redbone?
I think you did some careful editing.
"There is a physical difference between the two, which in my judgment will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong, having the superior position. I have never said anything to the contrary, but I hold that notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. [Loud cheers.] I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects---certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man. [Great applause.]
From the speech at Ottowa, 1858
More Lincoln:
"Negroes, like other people act upon motives. Why should they do anything for us if we will do nothing for them? If they stake their lives for us, they must be prompted by the strongest motive--even the promise of freedom. And the promise, being made, must be kept....peace does not appear as distant as it did. I hope it will come soon, and come to stay; and so come as to worth the keeping in all future time. It will have then been proved that, among free men, there can be no successful appeal from the ballot to the bullet; and that they who take such appeal are sure to lose their case, and pay the cost. And then, there will be some black men, who can remember that, with silent tongue, and clenched teeth, and steady eye, and well-poised bayonet they have helped mankind on to this great consumation; while, I fear, there will be some white ones, unable to forget that, with malignant heart, and deceitful speech, have strove to hinder it. Still let us not be over-sanguine of a speedy final triumph. Let us be quite sober. Let us dilligently apply the means, never doubting that a just God, in his own good time, will give us the rightful result."
Malignant hearts? Deceitful speech?
Imagine that.
Walt
"I will say then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races; that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people."
I dont care how much OTHER stuff you can find on ol Ape, he still said:
"I will say then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races; that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people."
Aint it turrible, Walt? Aint it turrible yore blessed Lincoln actually said:
"I will say then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races; that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people."
Youre plum pathetic in yore attempt to whitewash ole Ape. Plum pathetic.
Explane that "moral right". Were they being oppressed?
It took a whole lot more of you to get what you got. Then we made a HUNDRED THOUSAND more empty seats around yore mammies' supper tables.
Chew on that'n awhiles "guy".
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