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Pets don't need shots every year
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 22, 2002, 12:32AM | LEIGH HOPPER, Houston Chronicle Medical Writer

Posted on 04/22/2002 6:20:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Experts say annual vaccines waste money, can be risky

Debra Grierson leaves the veterinarian's office clutching Maddie and Beignet, her Yorkshire terriers, and a credit card receipt for nearly $400.

That's the cost for the tiny dogs' annual exams, including heartworm checks, dental checks and a barrage of shots.

"They're just like our children," said the Houston homemaker. "We would do anything, whatever they needed."

What many pet owners don't know, researchers say, is that most yearly vaccines for dogs and cats are a waste of money -- and potentially deadly. Shots for the most important pet diseases last three to seven years, or longer, and annual shots put pets at greater risk of vaccine-related problems.

The Texas Department of Health is holding public hearings to consider changing the yearly rabies shot requirement to once every three years. Thirty-three other states already have adopted a triennial rabies schedule. Texas A&M University's and most other veterinary schools now teach that most shots should be given every three years.

"Veterinarians are charging customers $36 million a year for vaccinations that are not necessary," said Bob Rogers, a vet in Spring who adopted a reduced vaccine schedule. "Not only are these vaccines unnecessary, they're causing harm to pets."

Just as humans don't need a measles shot every year, neither do dogs or cats need annual injections for illnesses such as parvo, distemper or kennel cough. Even rabies shots are effective for at least three years.

The news has been slow to reach consumers, partly because few veterinarians outside academic settings are embracing the concept. Vaccine makers haven't done the studies needed to change vaccine labels. Vets, who charge $30 to $60 for yearly shots, are loath to defy vaccine label instructions and lose an important source of revenue. In addition, they worry their patients won't fare as well without yearly exams.

"I know some vets feel threatened because they think, `People won't come back to my office if I don't have the vaccine as a carrot,' " said Alice Wolf, a professor of small-animal medicine at Texas A&M and an advocate of reduced vaccinations. "A yearly exam is very important."

The movement to extend vaccine intervals is gaining ground because of growing evidence that vaccines themselves can trigger a fatal cancer in cats and a deadly blood disorder in dogs.

Rogers conducts public seminars on the subject with evangelical zeal but thus far has been unsuccessful in persuading the Texas Veterinary Medical Association to adopt a formal policy.

"I'm asking the Texas attorney general's office if this is theft by deception," said Rogers, whose Critter Fixer practice won an ethics award from the Better Business Bureau in 2000. "They just keep coming out with more vaccines that are unnecessary and don't work. Professors give seminars, and nobody comes and nobody changes."

When rabies shots became common for pets in the 1950s, no one questioned the value of annual vaccination. Distemper, which kills 50 percent of victims, could be warded off with a shot. Parvovirus, which kills swiftly and gruesomely by causing a toxic proliferation of bacteria in the digestive system, was vanquished with a vaccine. Over the years, more and more shots were added to the schedule, preventing costly and potentially deadly disease in furry family members.

Then animal doctors began noticing something ominous: rare instances of cancer in normal, healthy cats and an unusual immune reaction in dogs. The shots apparently caused feline fibrosarcoma, a grotesque tumor at the site of the shot, which is fatal if not discovered early and cut out completely. Dogs developed a vaccine-related disease in which the dog's body rejects its own blood.

"That really caused people to ask the question, `If we can cause that kind of harm with a vaccine ... are we vaccinating too much?' " said Ronald Schultz, a veterinary immunologist at the University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine. "As you get more and more (vaccines), the possibility that a vaccine is going to cause an adverse event increases quite a bit."

Less frequent vaccines could reduce that risk, Schultz reasoned. Having observed that humans got lifetime immunity from most of their childhood vaccines, Schultz applied the same logic to dogs. He vaccinated them for rabies, parvo, kennel cough and distemper and then exposed them to the disease-causing organisms after three, five and seven years. The animals remained healthy, validating his hunch.

He continued his experiment by measuring antibody levels in the dogs' blood nine and 15 years after vaccination. He found the levels sufficient to prevent disease.

Fredric Scott, professor emeritus at Cornell University College of Veterinary Medicine, obtained similar results comparing 15 vaccinated cats with 17 nonvaccinated cats. He found the cats' immunity lasted 7.5 years after vaccination. In 1998, the American Association of Feline Practitioners published guidelines based on Scott's work, recommending vaccines every three years.

"The feeling of the AAFP is, cats that receive the vaccines every three years are as protected from those infections as they would be if they were vaccinated every year," said James Richards, director of the Feline Health Center at Cornell. "I'm one of many people who believe the evidence is really compelling."

Texas A&M's Wolf said the three-year recommendation "is probably just as arbitrary as anything else," and nothing more than a "happy medium" between vaccine makers' recommendations and the findings by Schultz and Scott aimed at reducing vaccine-related problems.

But many vets are uncomfortable making a drastic change in practice without data from large-scale studies to back them up. There is no animal equivalent of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which monitors outbreaks of vaccine-preventable disease in people, thus keeping tabs on a vaccine's effectiveness.

Federal authorities require vaccine makers to show only that a vaccine is effective for a reasonable amount of time, usually one year. Richards notes that studies to get a feline vaccine licensed in the first place are typically quite small, involving 25 to 30 cats at most.

There is no federal requirement to show a vaccine's maximum duration of effectiveness. Arne Zislin, a veterinarian with Fort Dodge Animal Health, the largest animal vaccine maker in the world, said such studies would be expensive and possibly inhumane, requiring hundreds of animals, some of them kept in isolation for up to five years.

"I don't think anyone with consideration for animals would really want to go through that process," said Zislin, another vet who believes current data are insufficient to support an extended schedule.

Diane Wilkie, veterinarian at Rice Village Animal Hospital, said she tells pet owners that vaccines appear to last longer than a year, but her office hasn't officially changed its protocol yet. She said 20 percent to 30 percent of her cat patients are on the extended schedule.

"It's kind of a hard situation. The manufacturers still recommend a year, but they're the manufacturers," Wilkie said. "It's hard to change a whole professional mentality -- although I do think it will change."

In Houston, yearly pet examinations typically cost $50 to $135, with shots making up one-third to half of the expense. A dental check, heartworm test, fecal check and overall physical are usually included in the price. Without the shots, vets could expect to lose a chunk of that fee.

But an increasing number of vets are emphasizing other services, such as surgery. Wolf said savings on vaccines might prompt pet owners to get their pets' teeth cleaned instead. An in-house test to check antibody levels is in development.

"I definitely think there's a profit issue in there; don't get me wrong," Wilkie said. "(But) people are willing to spend money on their pets for diseases. Although vaccines are part of the profit, they aren't that big a part. We just did a $700 knee surgery."

Vaccination findings

Veterinary research challenges the notion that pets need to be vaccinated every 12 months. Some of the findings:

Dog vaccines/Minimum duration of immunity

· Canine rabies3 years

· Canine parainfluenza3 years

· Canine distemper (Onderstepoort strain)5 years

· Canine distemper (Rockborn strain)7 years

· Canine adenovirus (kennel cough)7 years

· Canine parvovirus7 years

Cat vaccines/Minimum duration of immunity

· Cat rabies3 years

· Feline panleukopenia virus6 years

· Feline herpesvirus5 or 6 years

· Feline calicivirus3 years

Recommendations for dogs

· Parvovirus, adenovirus, parainfluenza, distemper: Following initial puppy shots, provide booster one year later, and every three years thereafter.

· Rabies: At 16 weeks of age, thereafter as required by law.

· Bordatella: Use prior to boarding; may be repeated up to six times a year.

· Coronavirus: Not recommended in private homes. Prior to boarding, may be given to dogs 8 weeks or older, and repeated every six months.

· Lyme: Not recommended.

· Giardia: Not recommended.

Recommendations for cats

· Panleukopenia, herpesvirus (rhinotracheitis), calicivirus: Following initial kitten shots, provide booster one year later and every three years thereafter.

· Rabies: At 8 weeks of age, thereafter as required by law.

· Feline leukemia: Use only in high-risk cats. Best protection is two vaccines prior to 12 weeks of age, with boosters repeated annually.

· Bordatella: Use prior to boarding.

· Feline infectious peritonitis: Not recommended.

· Chlamydia: Not recommended.

· Ringworm: May be used during an outbreak in a home.

Sources: Ronald Schultz, University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine; Fredric Scott, Cornell University College of Veterinary Medicine; Colorado State University; University of California-Davis Center for Companion Animal Health.


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To: abner
Why did the pet store have to know that you had other cats?
121 posted on 04/22/2002 3:35:47 PM PDT by agrace
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To: Snowy
In the meantime, maybe you could save a little money. Do you have Petsmart stores in PA? Here in NJ, they have vaccine clinics on Sun afternoons that are a FRACTION of what vets charge for shots. I got complete shots for an Italian greyhound for under $40 - I think the total bill was 35 and change. The vet wanted to charge over 200 for the same.
122 posted on 04/22/2002 3:39:01 PM PDT by agrace
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To: PoisedWoman
Yes, I saw her picture after I posted mine about Bea. I almost replied to yours and asked where is Keesha?!

You sent me both pictures, that I still have.

g

123 posted on 04/22/2002 3:42:19 PM PDT by Geezerette
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To: agrace
Stunning price you quote for your vet... I guess it pays to shop... I don't know, because I have been going to the same clinic for years. If none of the pets needs special/thorough exam, I pay $20 for an office call (no matter how many critters I squeeze in per visit) and around $20 for each of the combo shots. If everyone needs to be seen, I can pay $50 for a farm call and have everyone immunized at home.
124 posted on 04/22/2002 3:45:36 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: abner
That picture of your cat looks almost identical to a cat I had for 16 years. He was my favorite cat, and I was heartbroken when he died last year. However, we got another cat that's almost exactly like him except this cat has a spot on his chin. He's almost a year old.
125 posted on 04/22/2002 3:48:00 PM PDT by Big Steve
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To: PoisedWoman
What a gorgeous cat! She looks like my cat Fred who died 3 years ago. Do you have anymore photos that you can post?
126 posted on 04/22/2002 4:03:03 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: agrace
Why did the pet store have to know that you had other cats?

I filled out the form honestly. They called my vet and turned me down.

I sent my hubby in later and he filled out the form differently. He got the kitten. He didn't lie, the other cats are all mine. So, I guess technically, Fidget belongs to him.

Talk about silly.

127 posted on 04/22/2002 5:22:35 PM PDT by abner
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To: StockAyatollah
I went thru several vets in two states looking for one that could help my golden retreiver's skin problems. They all said she had "allergies" then prescribed Prednisone pils and Cortisone injections. These treatments never significantly helped the problem.

Any vet who prescribes cortisone injections or pred oral for "allergies" needs to be dumped, if,

1)They do not inform you of the many reasons for allergies, such as inhalants, ingested, contact, endoparasitic or ectoparasitic, and outline the various ways to attempt to diagnose the underlying stimulus. Does it cost money? Yes. Nothing is free. Allergy workups are sometimes very easy, other times are very painstaking meticuous workups. The cause can be found out most times, the limiting factor being your pocketbook and patience.

2)Wish to simply give "fido" a "shot" of cortisone as a cure.

It seems to me that most veterinarians are not doctors but glofified techs. Come to them with a problem and they regurgitate some standard treatment. Especially, a treatment that will bring a good, continuous revenue stream to them. If the treatment doesn't work they run more tests and prescribe the same treatment. Vets seem to be in serious need of analytical skills.

Seems to be rather sweeping, no?

Every dicipline, every profession, has the average, the below average, and the cream. You usually get what you pay for. Go to a cut rate practice that specializes in volume over quality, and that is exactly what you get. If you want quality medicine, you must be prepared to fork over some bucks, because the quality practice may have several hundred thousand dollars invested in diagnositic and theraputic equipment, as well as well trained staff, and yes, well compensated specialists. Tell me, would you go to a cut rate hospital to get your (insert vital organ here) worked on because it is a few bucks cheaper, or would you opt for the best in that field, knowing it will cost more?

Regards,

129 posted on 04/22/2002 9:11:12 PM PDT by going hot
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To: agrace
Many veterianry hospitals offer low cost vaccine only clinics, usualy a particular day of the month, or particular evening of a given week. Look around and find one.

Also, check your invoice when you are at your vet's office to see what exactly you are getting for your money. If you feel you received less than what you paid for, go somewhere else. If the staff and employees do not deliver optimum service to you, perceived or real, they have failed, and the best way to "help" them understand is to go elsewhere, and if you feel you must, TELL them why you left.

130 posted on 04/22/2002 9:20:39 PM PDT by going hot
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I've decided that vets are a scam similar to planned parenthood. As a kid, we always had an indoor dog or fenced yard dog and they never had thier shots nor were they ever liscensed, and never speyed/neutered. They always lived to be around 14 years old.

I remember one dog got sick with cancer(kidney, I think). The vet had a superior attitude and said the dog needed to have its shots and be neutered. This poor sick dog was 14 goddam years old! Well, my parents agreed and the sick and dying dog got his shots and was neutered. They also had his teeth cleaned and a couple teeth pulled and a shampoo/haircut.

How stupid is that! You have a sick dying dog with cancer and the vet insists on pumping its blood with vaccines and hacking off its testicles, and then polishing up his teeth and making him look pretty! Naturally, the dog died a few weeks later. His death was probably hastened by the additional stress of surgery, dental work, and vaccinations.

I always claimed that the vet figured he had only a limited time left to make a few bucks off this poor dog before it died.

My current dog is a boston terrior that is 13 years old and in perfect health, trim and fit and very active. The only shots it has ever had are those received as a puppy. This dog will never get another shot and when it's her time to go, so be it. I will bury her in the back yard.

As long as the city insists on charging an arm and a leg for a stupid dog liscense, and showing prejudice against dogs that have not been speyed/neutered, they and kiss my a$$. I'll never liscense a pet with those fascists and they can't make me do so.
131 posted on 04/22/2002 10:01:40 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
We had a couple of dogs that from six weeks of age onward got all the shots the vet had scheduled. They both developed immune system problems at an early age and both had to be put to sleep by age six. In doing lots of research on their health problems, I read frequently that vaccinations may be a big part of the problem.

The book by Dr. Pitcairn on natural health for animals convinced me that our next pets would not have the conventional schedule of shots. Since that time our pets had initial shots about 4 to 6 months of age, and then they have not had shots that were multiple vaccines, but only a few individual vaccines and those were killed virus vaccines as often as possible. The difference in the health of our cats and dogs who have been treated this way, is a vast improvement over the poor guys who very probably suffered from our assaulting their young immune systems with the standard vaccinations.

132 posted on 04/22/2002 10:11:24 PM PDT by Mahone
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To: mamelukesabre
I've decided that vets are a scam similar to planned parenthood.

You need to know that when you open a post with a ridiculous statement like this, nothing else you say has a lot of merit.

133 posted on 04/22/2002 10:40:58 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: struwwelpeter
THE KITTENS WERE ALIVE!!!!!
134 posted on 04/22/2002 11:43:39 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Yeah, he is a pretty one.

Women especially like him, which makes it easier for me to strike up conversations.

Hehe.

135 posted on 04/22/2002 11:54:01 PM PDT by tictoc
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To: going hot
Every dicipline, every profession, has the average, the below average, and the cream. You usually get what you pay for. Go to a cut rate practice that specializes in volume over quality, and that is exactly what you get. If you want quality medicine, you must be prepared to fork over some bucks, because the quality practice may have several hundred thousand dollars invested in diagnositic and theraputic equipment, as well as well trained staff, and yes, well compensated specialists. Tell me, would you go to a cut rate hospital to get your (insert vital organ here) worked on because it is a few bucks cheaper, or would you opt for the best in that field, knowing it will cost more?

Believe me I paid thousand$ over the years. Money was not the problem. I never questioned what the vets charged, until the very end of the dog's life when I was tired of being screwed by incompetents! The problem was that I was never able to find a real professional vet. I tried 5 vets in 2 states, including one promoting herself as a "dermatological specialist". All were mediocre at best. Either I must be very unlucky or as I said before, the veterinary field sucks!

136 posted on 04/23/2002 7:09:24 AM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: RightFin
Right smart grin!!
137 posted on 04/23/2002 9:37:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: PoisedWoman
Lucky for both of us! She's a splendid animal!

She looks like a PoisedCat!

138 posted on 04/23/2002 9:41:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Mahone
The difference in the health of our cats and dogs who have been treated this way, is a vast improvement over the poor guys who very probably suffered from our assaulting their young immune systems with the standard vaccinations.

Bump!

139 posted on 04/23/2002 9:48:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Endeavor
Does anyone happen to know if veterinary science in the U.S. has developed a cure for Leishmaniosis?

A poster at Post# 120 could use some advice.

140 posted on 04/23/2002 9:50:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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