Altar boys are paying the price of Vatican II

(London) Telegraph ^ | 12/04/2002 (That's April 12, Brit style) | Stuart Reid

[Dinsdale]

Many Christians fail to remember that Christ talked long and often about how you think is often a sin before the act is ever committed.

Old George Carlin bit.

You think about feeling up suzie.
You want to feel up suzie.
You ask her out hoping to feel up suzie.
You feed suzie while trying to look her in the eyes (failing).
You take suzie for a drive to feel her up.
You feel her up.
You like it.

That's a bunch of sins for just one feel.

[uncbob]

There is not one major orginized religion that has not had a child molester on the pulpit (yep that includes your religion whatever it is). Also schools have this problem. They are attracted to positions of authority with access to children. Simple as that.

Well something sure as hell has changed since I graduated from an all boys Catholic HS in 54.

We had a graduating class of 1004
We had 64 priests and 36 noviates teaching us.
No way teenagers don't talk
We had several known boozers
But NO ZILCH ZERO rumors of any homosexual hanky panky PERIOD

[aristeides]

I was trying to make the same point, that this problem existed -- although, I suspect, on a much smaller scale -- before Vatican II.

[Clemenza]

Yeah, and the only time I ever hear the other members of the Holy Family spoken of by other Christian sects, Christ's mother is merely and insignificant afterthought. God might as well have chosen your mother (or mine) I guess.

You are very much correct in criticizing the other Freeper taking the Lord's name in vain, however.

[Palladin]

Good article. Bookmarked for later commentary.

[Aliska]

This whole mess is going to boomerang on all Christians in general.

[Clemenza]

and=an.

[gcruse]

If they are committing the work of the Devil, why are they still priests?

  Flip Wilson's "The devil made me do it," was a documentary.
  I guess the devil does his work, then steps back out of your
  body and moves on.  There's no one to punish here, pilgrim,
  leave a donation at the door and move along.

[Campion]

This pretty much sums up the whole problem with the RCC. You'd never hear a good Catholic use Mary's name in vain.

And you'd never hear a good Protestant take the Lord's name in vain, huh? LOL ... watch the beam in your own eye, pal.

[Mike Fieschko]

I don't understand his arguement. Vatican II caused all of this?

If his argument is that the Council caused this, you're right ... that argument is bull.

If the argument is that by 'opening the windows' to let 'the spirit of Vatican II' blow through the Church, and that the 'spirit' was the spirit of the 1960s, I agree with Reid.

[ArrogantBustard]

You'd never hear a good Catholic use Mary's name in vain.

You've obviously never heard a drunken Irishman swearing... One I knew, when he got thoroughly pissed and started ranting and raving would first exhaust all the possibilities with the Lord's name, then start in on the Angels and Saints. Of them, Mary was first in line. Sad, really; when he was sober his language was impeccable.

AB

[ambrose]

There shouldn't be such a thing as a "homosexual priest" or even a "heterosexual priest"... priests are SUPPOSED to be asexual.

[N. Theknow]

Well the only way this mess is going to get cleaned up in the USA is if the Pope appoints a special represenative with unlimited powers to purge the system.

Hope Ken Starr isn't Catholic.

[weikel]

Gee maybe we should just cut the balls off every one of them then LOL.

[uncbob]

priests are SUPPOSED to be asexual.

Castration anyone ?

[mc5cents]

This pretty much sums up the whole problem with the RCC. You'd never hear a good Catholic use Mary's name in vain.

Oh, I don't know about that. I grew up with Irish priests and as I recall one of their favorite expressions was: "Jesus, Mary and Joseph, why did ya do that Tom!" And that was in the confessional!.

[Dinsdale]

I graduated from a Jesuit all boys high school in 82 (the term we used was 'doing our time').

No word of anything wrong from anybody, but two of the lay teachers just gave every student the creaps (stereotypical gay affections, lisps, limp wrists etc). However if anything had actually happened I guarantee the victim would not have said anything to his peers. A failed pass by a teacher would have been all over the school in a minute though.

Being a light/sound crew geek I knew my way around the building and somehow 'found' a pass key. We knew where the booze closet was and that is all I will admit.

[uncbob]

"Jesus, Mary and Joseph, why did ya do that Tom!" And that was in the confessional!.

Well don't keep us in suspense what did you do and why ?

[Tacis]

Maybe we should have guessed something when they opend the new SoJ highschool, "Our Fairy of the Sacred Heart."

[Palladin]

California Jesuits

What a lovely bunch of fellows! I bet they're all very good to their mothers.