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9/11 LESSONS FROM "LORD OF THE RINGS" AUTHOR: Tolkien, Hitler, and Nordic Heroism
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | December 20, 2001 | J.P. Zmirak

Posted on 03/25/2002 5:06:44 AM PST by Liz

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Writing to his son, Tolkien opines: ......" I have in this War a burning
private grudge ......against that ruddy little ignoramus Adolf Hitler... "
1 posted on 03/25/2002 5:06:44 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
What the!?!??!!? Nazis were pagans? I keep reading they were a Christian scurge.
2 posted on 03/25/2002 5:12:45 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA
One learns something new everyday.
3 posted on 03/25/2002 5:14:25 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Good article. Thanks for sharing it. I've always been struck by the smiliarities between LOTR and the German epic Das Nibelungenlied which was the basis of the Wagnerian cycle of operas Der Ring des Nibelungen. I have always believed that Tolkien wrote LOTR to "ne-nazify" Wagner's "Ring."

Wagnerian hobbit:


4 posted on 03/25/2002 5:26:31 AM PST by Alouette
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To: HDawg
On a different thread I posted: wait'll Hollyweird finds out Tolkien, who
wrote "Lord of The Rings," which won four Oscars, was a Catholic.

Seems there was a brouhaha over cut-throat Oscar campaigns with charges, countercharges and media
themes centering on Hollywood's Racism, homophobia, sexism, anti-Semitism, white-guy heterotocracy.

Thanks to HDawg's suggestionn that we read this FrontPage Magazine article
about Tolkien, a story inspired by Teutonic values of individualism and heroism.

Hollywarped may never recover.

5 posted on 03/25/2002 5:28:53 AM PST by Liz
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To: Alouette
...always believed that Tolkien wrote LOTR to "ne-nazify" Wagner's "Ring"....

....not implausible, knowing of his oft-spoken anti-Nazi sentiments....

6 posted on 03/25/2002 5:31:31 AM PST by Liz
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To: registered
Not C.S. Lewis but just as good.
7 posted on 03/25/2002 5:34:05 AM PST by Liz
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To: Alouette;HDawg
Good article. Thanks for sharing it

As I said above, all thanks must extend to HDawg.

8 posted on 03/25/2002 5:35:33 AM PST by Liz
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To: ecurbh
Ring Ping to the One Ping King
9 posted on 03/25/2002 5:38:57 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Alouette
Actually more of a warrior of Gondor.
10 posted on 03/25/2002 5:48:41 AM PST by Valin
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To: Liz
Very interesting article. Unfortunately, LOTR can't approach the cultural import, the moral depth of Monsters Ball. /sarcasm>
11 posted on 03/25/2002 5:49:12 AM PST by Faraday
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To: Uff da;Viking Chick
Oscar time for the long boats!
12 posted on 03/25/2002 5:49:30 AM PST by Graewoulf
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To: Liz
"Not C.S. Lewis but just as good."

A long talk with J.R.R.T., a devout Catholic, in Sept. of 1931 led Lewis to become a Christian. The Middle Earth books are regarded as Tolkien's masterwork but this one act of Christian witness to Lewis will have far more lasting consequences.

13 posted on 03/25/2002 5:49:47 AM PST by Brute_Force
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To: Faraday
>Very interesting article. Unfortunately, LOTR can't approach the cultural import, the moral depth of Monsters Ball. /sarcasm>

I suspect one of these years LOTR will be up there collecting all the Oscars almost like Titanic. LOTR does have two more parts to it.

14 posted on 03/25/2002 5:56:48 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Valin
Actually more of a warrior of Gondor.

OK, what would these Wagnerian babes correspond to in LOTR?


15 posted on 03/25/2002 6:03:34 AM PST by Alouette
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To: Alouette
Talk about your babes!
I'm thinking shieldmaidens of the Rohirrim.
16 posted on 03/25/2002 6:11:00 AM PST by Valin
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To: DManA
What the!?!??!!? Nazis were pagans? I keep reading they were a Christian scurge.

Of course you have since the liberals comtinue to spread this lie in order to kill Christianity. Only a few historians or professors will acknowledge this and openly teach their classes this fact. The SS had bizarre rituals where they tried to commune with Nordic gods and ancient dead kings. You will hear Hitler and the Nazi's always refer to the Jews as a "race" and not a religion for two reasons: 1) Hitler's ideas on race and eugenics were the dominant motivators for his murderous actions, and 2) If you are a Christian you have to accept the Book of the Jews, the Old Testament, as part of the faith.

17 posted on 03/25/2002 6:17:23 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Brute_Force
My post "Not C.S. Lewis but just as good" is an allusion to a series of
threads we've posted here on Lewis' master work, "The Screwtape Letters."

The threads were very popular and introduced many to the genius of Lewis
and to the designs of his diabolical characters Screwtape and Wormwood.

Proof-positive that Christian witness to Lewis has lasting consequences for the world.

18 posted on 03/25/2002 6:21:56 AM PST by Liz
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.... can't approach the cultural import, the moral depth of Monsters Ball. /sarcasm>

Monsters Ball is arthouse......no, make that outhouse........fare......

19 posted on 03/25/2002 6:25:41 AM PST by Liz
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To: Valin
shieldmaidens of the Rohirrim.

Theme music reminds you of napalm in the morning, doesn't it?

20 posted on 03/25/2002 6:26:07 AM PST by Alouette
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