Pro-lifers need to start organizing now against a possible bait and switch with the vice-presidency. Ridge, Rice and Powell are all being kicked around as possbile VP's. They would then become front runners for the Presidency dealing a severe blow to the pro-life movement and certainly leading to even more millions being killed.
1 posted on
03/23/2002 4:54:02 PM PST by
Diago
To: pollwatcher; 3catsanadog; mdittmar; verboten; braD’S GRAMMA; IM2PHAT4U; LARRYLIED; CAGEY...
I noticed that not a few people on this forum were beginning to deny that Rice was a pro-abort. This was the only documentation I could find. Perhaps I'll e-mail howard Phillips for documentation on this rather bizzarre "reluctantly pro-choice" quote of Rice to for documentation on its origin.
I am always amazed at how quickly otherwise sound Conservatives will waive all their standards and engage in affirmative action when it comes to black RINO's. White guilt is alive and well in the GOP.
2 posted on
03/23/2002 5:04:43 PM PST by
Diago
To: Diago
Pro-lifers need to start organizing now against a possible bait and switch with the vice-presidency. Ridge, Rice and Powell are all being kicked around as possbile VP's. Can someone point me to a reasonable source indicating one of these three are being considered as VEEP material in '04? Please?
To: Diago
As National Security Advisor Condi Rice's position on abortion isn't important. But as Vice President she would be a heart beat away from supporting further pro-choice measures, that would lead to more deaths of unborn children. There's been 40,000,000 abortion deaths since 1973, we don't need someone who supports abortion rights to become the next VPOTUS. Not now, not ever! I don't believe Colin POwell wants to be VPOTUS. I believe Tom Ridge wants to be POTUS some day and a good stepping stone is to be a VPOTUS first. I don't believe Bush would pick Ridge or Rice to replace Cheney. If he did, he would lose significant conservative support.
To: Diago
WOULD CONDI RICE AND COLIN POWELL BE "PRO-CHOICE" ON SLAVERY?If they support income taxes, they support my being enslaved for about 7 months of the year. That includes state, local, federal, and user fees (parks, licenses, etc.) that most won't count as taxes... anyway...
To: Diago
Great to see that people are reading the I&SB!
To: Diago
This seems really important at this point in history! </sarcasm off>
Condi Rice is the NSA, how or where abortion plays into this is beyond me!
Her job is to help determine whose ass we should kick with what means and when.
13 posted on
03/23/2002 6:29:25 PM PST by
TD911
To: Diago
It's already bad enough with Bush approving fetal stem cell research the way he did ----too many "compromises" and we're seeing no progress at all.
18 posted on
03/23/2002 7:50:12 PM PST by
FITZ
To: Diago
Howard Phillips has made himself irrelevant and should generally be ignored; however, I agree with the point: Rice must clarify her views if we're to accept her in VP or similar slot. And there is no excuse for supporting abortion.
And Colin Powell has proven again and again that he is an imbecile when it comes to a wide variety of moral issues, including abortion.
Dan
22 posted on
03/24/2002 7:30:01 AM PST by
BibChr
To: Diago
I have to respectfully disagree. What exactly has Cheney done to halt abortions since becoming Vice President? Has he even given any speeches about the issue?
The marching orders come from the top. It's G.W. Bush that will head the ticket in 2004 and *his* position will be the de facto administration position. And even this is of limited power while the SCOTUS stands firmly on Roe v. Wade.
I am pro-life. I want as many pro-lifers as possible at the top of the administration. But I fear more a government run by incompetents, no matter what views they hold on abortion, than a government run by sterling individuals who happen to disagree with me on this one issue (unless they are assigned to positions where their stand on abortion will, indeed, directly affect the issue).
I know a lot of people fear that, once a Republican VP is pro-choice, they become the new party leader on the issue should the president leave office by death or by proxy. It is a legitimate concern. But on the office alone, H.H.S. Sec'y Tommy Thompson, Atty General John Ashcroft and Surgeon General Satcher have far more power to actually help or damage the pro-life cause than the vice president does. And Satcher is a Clinton mole. I can only assume his race is what prevents Bush from firing the guy.
To: Diago
WOULD CONDI RICE AND COLIN POWELL BE "PRO-CHOICE" ON SLAVERY?Depends. If they were born white or free blacks, they probably would be reluctantly pro-slavery. If they were born slaves, they would be strong abolitionists.
To: Diago
"WOULD CONDI RICE AND COLIN POWELL BE "PRO-CHOICE" ON SLAVERY?"
Irrelevant to the question of abortion. If you don't like Rice and Powell and their policies/influence then just say so.
Personally, I find them less dangerous than I had anticipated when nominated. Powell was obviously much more a PR appointment for the media's benefit than anything else. I expected a little more from Rice but have been disappointed somewhat. Both are extremely overrated for top-level positions. I think this is one of the reasons Rumsfeld is playing such a strong role in the Bush administration. Rice and Powell are both weak players in actual practice. So the Secretary of Defense has become more prominent. Rumsfeld is fully ready for primetime. Rice is still inexperienced and Powell's experience never did him much good.
Considering that neither of them is especially effective in their appointed jobs, why does their opinion on abortion matter much? Especially when it's apparent that blacks won't vote Bush for any reason at all.
To: Diago
Equal Rights for Unborn Blacks and Women!
To: Diago
Pro-Life Bump.
To: Diago
These pictures are for Rice, Powell and Ridge and any other pro-choice individual.
To: Diago
Well nearly 65 million voters voted for pro-choice presidential candidates in 1992. I don't think Condi Rice being moderately pro-life would hurt the ticket's chances.
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