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TKO-Liberty Belles Trounce "Million Moms"
Liberty Belles ^ | 3/23/02 | M. Hollenbeck

Posted on 03/23/2002 8:37:56 AM PST by lowbridge

TKO-Liberty Belles Trounce "Million Moms"

by

M. Hollenbeck

You would think that a forum being held at a college in Los Angeles (arguably, but hardly so, Gun Control Capitol of the West) with the topic "Gun Ownership vs. Gun Control - Which Is Safer?" would present a safe haven for the emotional rhetoric of gun-controllers like Charles Blek and impressionable youngsters like Jennifer Mendoza.

However, when a debate is sponsored by a Libertarian group such as Students For Individual Liberty, the emotionalism that works so well with the gun-control True Believers and collegiate skulls full of mush is just so much raw meat to be tossed before hungry tigers.

L.A. Harbor College in Wilmington, California was the setting for this debate this past Wednesday, and not a chair was available. When there is the promise of podium-chewing action between the biggest anti-gun female group in America and an up-and-coming activist group that focuses on women's support of the Second Amendment, it's not likely those on the stage will outnumber their audience.

Taking the side of the Second Amendment were wife and mom Anna Zetchus Raetz, spokeswoman for Liberty Belles, and Randy Herrst of the Center For The Study Of Crime. Both came armed with confidence, statistics, and knowledge of the Constitution.

On the side of gun control were Charles Blek of the Orange County Citizens For Prevention Of Gun Violence (and wife to Million Mom March general Mary Leigh Blek) and Jennifer Mendoza, an L.A. Harbor College student in favor of gun control, armed only with emotion, sound bites, and in Miss Mendoza's case, unsourced statistics. Miss Mendoza is a very sweet, pretty young lady, but she smiled nervously throughout the proceedings and was unable to provide any backing for her claims. Mr. Blek seemed very uncomfortable with the notion that talk of his son's tragic murder by thugs with guns and a few well-placed statements on the populace's desire for more gun control laws and police support for those laws were not going to be nearly enough to make his case for "responsible gun control".

Each of the speakers were permitted about ten minutes each for opening statements.....

Rest of article here:

http://www.libertybelles.org/events/debate.htm


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To: lowbridge
"On the side of gun control were Charles Blek of the Orange County Citizens For Prevention Of Gun Violence (and wife to Million Mom March general Mary Leigh Blek) "

Well here's an interesting twist...

181 posted on 03/24/2002 9:12:11 AM PST by in the Arena
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To: Kithlyara;AnnaZ;Mercuria;
You all need to make your way down to San Diego sometime soon. I'm buyin' lunch! :0 )

Careful what you wish for, we're only two hours away! LOL

182 posted on 03/24/2002 10:31:21 AM PST by HangFire
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To: lowbridge
you have it tough buddy LOL
Thanks for the post all that beauty AND brains what a combo!
No not you Lowbridge I meant the gals ROFL ROFL
Free Republic, what a great site!!!
183 posted on 03/24/2002 10:39:09 AM PST by luvzhottea
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To: Angelique
Thank you!!
 
I had help from Mr. Randy "Attack Dog" Herrst. And I had fun.

184 posted on 03/24/2002 11:08:23 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: joanie-f
Anna, the only reason I would ever want to move away from my family and friends here in the heart of conservative Bible-belt America and head on out to left-coast enemy territory would be in order to be able to join forces with you and Merc!
 
Don't tease us!! DO IT, DO IT!! Victory would be ours!
 
 
Do they not realize that their efforts aimed at rendering their fellow citizens defenseless would simply cause others to experience the same pain that they themselves are trying to assuage by becoming crusaders against the right to keep and bear arms?
 
Sometimes I think that that is their goal. A kind of "Well, my life stinks, yours should, too!" mindset. I wrote a column a while back about it (Joy Meets Churl), and I'll share with you the quote I used:
 
Tears are easier to put up with than joy. Joy is destructive: it makes others uncomfortable. 'Weep and you will weep alone.' What a lie that is! Weep and you will find a million crocodiles to weep with you. The world is forever weeping. The world is drenched in tears... But joy, joy is a kind of ecstatic bleeding, a disgraceful sort of supercontentment which overflows from every pore of your being. You cannot make people joyous just by being joyous yourself. Joy has to be generated by oneself. It is or it isn't. Joy is founded on something too profound to be understood or communicated. To be joyous is to be a madman in a world of sad ghosts.
~ Henry Miller, Sexus
 
It sounds as though you handled Mr. Blek (et al) with a skillful combination of informed rebuke....and tact.
 
Well, I was able to be tactful in that I had Randy "Attack Dog" Herrst there to really go after him. Although I must admit I felt rather tactless when reiterating what I felt was truly a father's love as demonstrated by the dad in Volusia County, FL who would pick up his son after work each night with a .45, to protect his son. And protect him he did.
 
Now that is "for the children".
 
 
All that aside, what a pleasure to "see" you on this thread. I miss you!! You really should come out here sometime soon. The Belles will have a barbeque in your honor. Promise.
 
xo

185 posted on 03/24/2002 11:40:45 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: stands2reason
You must always remember, though, to use your power for good, and never for evil! ;-)

LOL!!! HangFire says that all the time, and it KILLS me!
 
What do I say to that?

186 posted on 03/24/2002 11:50:48 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: the
I did coin the term "Million John March", after seeing the countless porta-potties lining the mall the night before the "march".

I VOTE HAVE TO GO POTTY

187 posted on 03/24/2002 12:06:34 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: satchmodog9
Those things are soooo nasty.
 
I concur. They are disgusting.
 
 
My brother in law loves them. Me thinks his tours in Panama and Kuwait altered his brain chemistry enough to tolerate them. He says they were the first candy he had when he got back from Camelland. I guess they were better than MREs.


I have a friend who adores them as well. She has also altered her brain chemistry, but by socialistcollegiateindoctrinators, and has become a Communist. 'Course she still lives here in the People's Republic of Santa Monica. If her and her friends are successful, though, soon she'll be eating days-old bread she stood in line for. She will long for the days of indestructible, capitalistic Peeps. I now understand why they also come in pink.

188 posted on 03/24/2002 12:16:31 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: brat
Thanks for the BUMP, notreallysobratty.

189 posted on 03/24/2002 1:50:55 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: incindiary
Hey, sugarplum!
 
It was soooooo great having you there! Thank you for taking the time and making the effort.
 
LOVE you!

190 posted on 03/24/2002 1:57:38 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: lowbridge
Great Article, lowbridge. And, good job, Anna Z.

I second the invite to come to the southeast. We're OK here in Chattanooga for now, but Atlanta has quite a few liberal implants from the NorthEast. They need a big, well publicized debate.

And besides, I'm only about 1 1/2 hours from Atlanta and would definately be there. :^)

191 posted on 03/24/2002 6:12:49 PM PST by meyer
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To: AnnaZ
Excellent work and excellent thread!
192 posted on 03/24/2002 6:50:56 PM PST by ironman
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To: HangFire, AnnaZ, Mercuria, Lady Jenn, incindiary, feinswinesuksass
Wow! Five of my all-time fabulous freedom-loving belles all in one pic! When y'all gonna come up to debate the Frisco gun-grabbin' freaks? ;)
193 posted on 03/24/2002 7:23:56 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: HangFire, AnnaZ, Mercuria
Any time you want to come down here is fine with me! I'm sure I could get all of the San Diego Liberty Belles together to meet you :0 )
194 posted on 03/24/2002 9:25:22 PM PST by Kithlyara
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To: AnnaZ; Mercuria
Absolutely beautiful (oh, and a great job on the debate and article, too) ;-))
195 posted on 03/25/2002 7:37:19 AM PST by L,TOWM
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To: lowbridge
What is the rapist's worst nightmare? A women with a gun! Good going, Liberty Belles. For victory & freedom!!!
197 posted on 03/25/2002 10:16:23 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: HangFire
This guy is either a complete moron or completely self absorbed.

The answer is yes to both.

198 posted on 03/25/2002 10:19:03 AM PST by Noumenon
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To: AnnaZ
To infect the young with the contagious fever of Liberty is my ultimate goal.

that sure beats hugging a tree... good luck, it seems you are well armed (pun intended). we all march to a different drummer, but hear the same sweet sound of liberty.

199 posted on 03/25/2002 8:03:33 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: Noumenon
The answer is yes to both.

BWAHAHA!!!
I could not agree with you more;-)

200 posted on 03/25/2002 9:48:44 PM PST by HangFire
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