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Discovery Supports Theory Of A Single Species Of Human Ancestor
Science Daily ^ | 3-21-2002

Posted on 03/21/2002 12:22:11 PM PST by blam

Discovery Supports Theory Of A Single Species Of Human Ancestor

New Haven, Conn. - The discovery of a million-year-old skull in Ethiopia indicates that a single species of human ancestor, Homo erectus, ranged from Europe to Africa to Asia in the Pleistocene era, according to the cover article in the March 21 issue of the journal Nature.
The finding by the research team, which included Elidabeth Vrba, a Yale professor of paleontology in the Department of Geology and Geophysics, contradicts recent suggestions that there was a fundamental, early split in the homolineage between Eurasiatic and African populations.

"This find puts that into perspective," said Vrba. "This says a single species was very widespread in Africa and Eurasia."

The team was led Tim White, a professor at the University of California at Berkeley, and co-director of the Laboratory for Human Evolutionary Studies in the Museum of Vertebrate Zoology, and Berhane Asfaw of the Rift Valley Research Service in Addis Abbaba, Ethiopia.

The skull was found at a new site in Ethiopia's Afar Regional State near the village of Bouri in the Middle Awash study area.

The researchers spent two years removing the skullcap from the matrix of sediment that had tightly held it for a million years. Asfaw described the fossil as one of Ethiopia's most important.

The team's detailed analysis compared characteristics of the new fossil with other hominids from Africa, Europe and Asia. The analysis showed that it is impossible to cleanly segregate Homo erectus crania from different continents.

"They show mosaic resemblances," Vrba said. "One does not get one set of character states in each area, which suggests genetic continuity between them. There was movement and mobility between the populations, and interbreeding, consistent with a single species which should bear the name Homo erectus."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: crevolist; discoverysupports; godsgravesglyphs
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I could accept this. It does not conflict with my favorite theory of 'multiregionalism.' (Wolpoff)
1 posted on 03/21/2002 12:22:11 PM PST by blam
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To: RightWhale;farmfriend
FYI.
2 posted on 03/21/2002 12:23:19 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Sure glad that this version of the report doesn't drift into the ignorant hyperbole of anything being "proven" by this new discovery.
3 posted on 03/21/2002 12:25:04 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: crevo_list
Bump.
4 posted on 03/21/2002 12:25:35 PM PST by Junior
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To: blam
So...what went wrong later?
5 posted on 03/21/2002 12:43:57 PM PST by smolensk
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To: blam
Fossil Skull Fuels Debate Over Human Origins
6 posted on 03/21/2002 12:45:21 PM PST by blam
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The subject material is very intriguing to me. By my way of thinking, the author is syntactically dancing around the unspoken issue of "what happened to the neanderthal?" Surely, this is the other "species" that is being referred to when the topic of homo sapiens' single species of ancestor is brought up. The author seems to conclude that the Neanderthal, a proto-human with brain capacity that was, I believe, the equal or superior of our own, was not a linear evolutionary ancestor of Homo sapiens. So what does that have to do with the price of eggs? You may ask. If one is skeptical about the accepted view of human evolution (I am), it might be significant. The traditional view requires that one conclude that two completely genetically-distinct primate strands arose that had all the principal characteristics of humans, including the use of tools and the development of art and cosmology. One of them disappeared without a trace. The other evolved into Homo sapiens. Now, to me this seems highly improbable. It suggests that the evolutionary process of becoming human is relatively commonplace in nature. Heck, it happened twice simultaneously in different parts of Europe, Asia and Africa. And, these simultaneous processes were quite brief, requiring only a few hundred thousand years. It seems to me, that if this evolutionary process was as simple as this one would have observed the development of other species of primates with critical human characteristics in the last hundred thousand years or so. But we haven't. Only Homo sapiens have language, art, true self reflection and cognition. How can this be? Could it be part of some intelligent design? Prey, tell.
7 posted on 03/21/2002 12:53:53 PM PST by irish_links
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To: Publius6961
You noticed that also, I see.
8 posted on 03/21/2002 1:24:45 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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I thought there had been recent evidence that Neanderthals interbred with Homo Sapiens (essentially, we assimilated them)?
9 posted on 03/21/2002 1:27:56 PM PST by ellery
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"The traditional view requires that one conclude that two completely genetically-distinct primate strands arose that had all the principal characteristics of humans, including the use of tools and the development of art and cosmology. One of them disappeared without a trace. "

Nonsense. Both the Neanderthals and Homo sapiens have a comnmon rootstock in Homo erectus. The debate among scientists is wether or not there was some interbreeding between the populations. The Neanderthals left plenty of traces, and new fossils and artifacts are discovered every year.

10 posted on 03/21/2002 1:39:05 PM PST by Godebert
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To: ellery
Couldn't be, there's genetic evidence that the neanderthals were the biological cousins of homo sapians, it would be like a horse breeding with a donkey, there would be any reproductive offspring. No we wiped out the neaderthals though a old fashion resource war.
11 posted on 03/21/2002 1:45:48 PM PST by borghead
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To: blam
At some point, some say, there is a single ancestor. I never thought this was necessary. The Adam allegory makes vague sense on the literal level until you get to the part where Cain went to live with the people in the next valley over. People got feet, they can go anywhere, mingle, trade pottery and throwing sticks.
12 posted on 03/21/2002 1:46:10 PM PST by RightWhale
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Links to Neanderthal-Cro-Magnon Hybrid
13 posted on 03/21/2002 1:52:29 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Interesting links....but I've yet to see any DNA testing proving that Neanderthals and Homo sapiens interbred. As it stands now....evidence points to our last common ancestor with Neanderthals being some 500,000 years ago.
15 posted on 03/21/2002 2:04:55 PM PST by Godebert
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Adam was an Aussie not an African, Australian researchers say

SYDNEY, 9 January 2001 (AFP) -

Adam and Eve were Australians, not Africans as most experts on human evolution now believe, according to recently completed Australian research.

The research, soon to be published by an American scientific journal, presents a new genetic tree showing anatomically modern humanity emerged from a common ancestor who lived in Australia 60,000 years ago.

A team led by anthropologist Alan Thorne of Canberra's Australian National University, also shows Australia was once home to a group of Aboriginal people whose genetic line has vanished from the planet.

The discoveries are based on new analysis of the oldest DNA recovered from human remains; genetic material from a 60,000-year-old skeleton found near Lake Mungo in the eastern Australian state of New South Wales in 1974.

Mungo Man, as he has been dubbed, is creating a stir in the scientific community by casting serious doubt on the Out of Africa model of human evolution which has been backed by most international experts.

It holds that all living people are descended from a group of homo sapiens that left Africa around 100,000 to 150,000 years ago.

DNA from a Croatian Neanderthal who lived about 28,000 years ago was previously the oldest.

Thorne said most primitive forms of DNA known in living humans until now had been found in sub-Saharan Africa, leading to the theory that mankind originated in Africa and left it as modern Homo Sapiens before spreading around the world.

"And so what we have now found is a lineage that is older than any of those," Thorne told ABC radio.

"It's earlier than the putative most recent common ancestor, the so-called Eve point in mitochondrial evolution.

"So under a strict out of Africa hypothesise I have to say well they were wrong, obviously Eve was an Australian."

Thorne also believes modern Aboriginal Australians descended from two groups of distinctly different people.

"What I have always argued is that there is a distinct difference anatomically between these two groups of people," he said.

He believes one group entered Australia about 40,000 years before the others, a new group of "robust" people, who became visible in Australia about 20,000 years ago and appear to have arrived with edge-ground tools.

"I suspect that these new robust people enter Australia with a new tool kit and then mix together with other people who are already here to produce the extraordinary mix of people that we now call Aboriginal Australians," he said.

(It gets messy)

16 posted on 03/21/2002 2:25:54 PM PST by blam
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To: Godebert
My God! I am so proud of all of you! There is finally something resembling intelligent, respectful, informed debate on this godforsaken website! Not one fat joke about Rosie, not one hateful tirade about homosexuals and their future in Hell, no wacko comparisons of the Clintons and mass murderers. Also missing are the hundreds of replies arguing about the level of Anne Coulter's "hotness". Today you have accomplished what I had thought impossible for the Freepers: You have taken some honest opinions, and you have stated them with no trace of that bigoted egotism masking deep-rooted insecurities! How refreshing! I salute you all.
17 posted on 03/21/2002 2:38:15 PM PST by tinybadger
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To: tinybadger
The Clinton's are low life trailer trash and should be in prison!!
18 posted on 03/21/2002 2:46:53 PM PST by blam
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To: tinybadger
Look, you just don't go into a steakhouse and ask for the veggie menu!
19 posted on 03/21/2002 3:32:25 PM PST by Grut
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To: tinybadger
Go back to DU and eat your tofu and granola bars with the rest of the homosexual communist clintonista bolshevik un-American aids-ridden welfare parasites. That better, tinybooger?
20 posted on 03/21/2002 3:50:34 PM PST by Godebert
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