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To: RogueIsland
Classical Liberalism with its emphasis on liberty and its evolution of the contemporary conception of the citizen/state relationship and social contract has little in common with modern U.S. liberalism.

But classical liberalism has everything in common with libertarianism. In fact, they are interchangeable.

40 posted on 03/21/2002 9:06:52 AM PST by Mark Bahner
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To: Mark Bahner
But classical liberalism has everything in common with libertarianism. In fact, they are interchangeable.

This might be the case, but it would be a mistake to characterize the Founders as Libertarians, because clearly, they were not. Maybe you could call them small-l libertarians, maybe. If you read their works and what they actually did while in office, you will see that they were NOT Libertarians.

BTW, I consider myself a libertarian, so this is not an anti-libertarian rant.

42 posted on 03/21/2002 9:11:46 AM PST by Paradox
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To: Mark Bahner
But classical liberalism has everything in common with libertarianism. In fact, they are interchangeable.

It depends on which Classical Liberal writer you're looking at as to the degree of conformity. In the case of someone like John Stuart Mill, absolutely that is the case.

44 posted on 03/21/2002 9:12:50 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Mark Bahner
"But classical liberalism has everything in common with libertarianism. In fact, they are interchangeable"

The founding fathers were NOT rabid conspiracy theorists who hate the government (they founded it, after all) want to abolish ALL taxes (as if that's possible) but still uphold the Constitution of the United States, at least as it was originally written, because the Constitution is the basis of our government (which they claim to hate).

88 posted on 03/23/2002 11:21:30 AM PST by cake_crumb
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