[Pablo64]

Sorry, Arrogant, but I can't agree with your assesment of the RC church. The RC church does not (and has not for many, many centuries) resemble the church founded by the humble son of a Jewish carpenter. The Son of God who was born in a humlbe stable and died on a cross for us never ever intended for his disciples to live in palaces, sit on golden thrones, amass vast quantities of wealth and treasure, and lord it over people.

The people who sit in the pews of the Catholic churches are not really the problem here (although they accept the problem), it is the leadership that so often throughout history have preached, no demanded, that their followers behave one way while they are exempt from the same requirements.

I know I will be acused of bigotry, Catholic bashing, etc., just as BibChr has been here, but I've just come to accept that most Catholic defenders on this forum resort to that rather than discuss actual specifics.

[ArrogantBustard]

Please, Pablo, call me Bustard.
Bashing? You? Not in this post. Disagreement is not bashing. As for what the Catholic Church looks like today, I think it's looks like what happened when the Church founded by Jesus grew beyond just a few people. He did tell us to preach the Gospel to all nations, this seems to me to imply growth on a large scale. My pastor doesn't "lord it over" his parish, neither does his assistant. Quite the contrary. Likewise almost all of the other priests, deacons, and the two bishops I have met.

AB

[BibChr]

I know I will be acused of bigotry, Catholic bashing, etc., just as BibChr has been here, but I've just come to accept that most Catholic defenders on this forum resort to that rather than discuss actual specifics.

Aren't you the quick learner? (c8

Dan

[Campion]

The RC church does not (and has not for many, many centuries) resemble the church founded by the humble son of a Jewish carpenter.

He mentioned this, I think. Talked about an acorn and an oak tree, and a mustard seed.

The Son of God who was born in a humlbe stable and died on a cross for us never ever intended for his disciples to live in palaces, sit on golden thrones, amass vast quantities of wealth and treasure, and lord it over people.

"Intend it"? No ... but he did expect it. Why else do you think there are crystal-clear warnings against the abuse of such things in the Gospels? Luke 12:35-48 is in the Bible for a reason. Jesus wasn't wasting his breath.