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To: Nick Danger
The fact that you have some baggage about this issue is clear to everyone else. Youre letting it totally cloud your post and your responses.

All I am saying is that YES there is a bias towards women, and yes its existed a LONG LONG time. I am also saying that part of that reason is because women are more important to children at a young age.

Do fathers get the short end of the stick? Yep. Is it fair? Nope. Do kids need fathers? Of course.

When a divorce happens, there is no good outcome. It is going to be bad no matter what. But there IS a system in place, and I think it does more good than bad.

The only way to avoid the downsides of the system is to avoid divorce in the first place.
28 posted on 04/13/2002 11:28:38 PM PDT by jurisdog
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To: jurisdog
The fact that you have some baggage about this issue is clear to everyone else. Youre letting it totally cloud your post and your responses.

Oh, stop it. You do not know that I have any baggage on this subject. You're projecting your own mental processes onto someone that you don't even know and pronouncing it true. It always seems to baffle the self-centered among us that people can get upset about some principle of justice or governmental abuse without having a personal dog in the fight. Well, it happens every day on FR. It's what we do here.

No, I do not have a divorce decree that I am unhappy about. No, I do not pay any money to anyone because of any divorce decree. My whole concern with this issue is that I do not believe that a society that estranges a significant fraction of its adult male citizens from their children is stable. I would like to think that this is obvious to people, but there are those who cannot get their nose out of the case-by-case details. They appear to be incapable of abstract thinking. Too bad for them.

I do not know what the failure mechanism will turn out to be with this, or how it will unfold, but I am quite certain that divorce by divorce, we are creating a society that men will have no stake in, and which pits them against their own government over an issue as basic as the natural human right to live with one's children. Stuff like this is how tea ends up in the harbor, and we're treating it like it's no big deal. Oh sure, some day all children will live only with their mothers and men will be forced by the state to support them all. It'll work just fine.

Here's a hint: no it won't. We can either start now to adjust this system so that it's something that everyone can live with, or the government that makes this happen is going to get a root canal from its male citizenry.


29 posted on 04/14/2002 1:14:12 AM PDT by Nick Danger
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