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To: general_re
"OTOH, if more people took a Kantian view of God, there'd be much less conflict between science and religion "

You are really good at misrepresentation. It is evolutionists that are trying to prove God does not exist through science, and have been doing so for some 150 years. Christians are just trying to disprove that lie. Kant's criticism just showed that you cannot prove or disprove the existence of God through philosophy, it did not disprove the truth of either Aristotle or Aquinas. However, he did disprove Hume's materialistic view of the world very decisively and that is why you do not wish to expose Hume's statements to examination.

239 posted on 03/13/2002 4:43:35 AM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
Kant's criticism just showed that you cannot prove or disprove the existence of God through philosophy, it did not disprove the truth of either Aristotle or Aquinas.

You're contradicting yourself within the space of a single sentence. If Aristotle and Aquinas thought they could prove the existence of God using reason, and along comes Kant who says, no, you can't prove the existence of God using reason, what would you call that? A refutation? A contradiction? It is definitely not a confirmation or support for Aquinas in any way, which is what you originally implied about Kant.

However, he did disprove Hume's materialistic view of the world very decisively and that is why you do not wish to expose Hume's statements to examination.

Anyone is free to examine the writings of Hume to see if what I say is in accord with what he wrote. I am fairly confident that I have faithfully represented Hume and Kant here, but if anyone wishes to see for themselves what Hume had to say, here is an online version of Hume's "Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion". And this is an online version of Kant's "Critique of Pure Reason". I think that most people will discover that this idea that Kant "disproved" Hume is very much your opinion, rather than a matter of logical certainty.

And lastly...

It is evolutionists that are trying to prove God does not exist through science, and have been doing so for some 150 years.

Evolution and faith are not incompatible. A religion that deals with the spiritual and the transcendant, rather than making factual pronouncements about the material world, has nothing to fear from science and reason. I really think you'd be best off by going back and re-reading Kant.

241 posted on 03/13/2002 5:50:44 AM PST by general_re
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