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I'm normally a lurker here, but this thread has spurred my first post. To WIMom & GrammyMoon- I didn't dare post without 1st making a donation.

The 1st picture shows the plane in the lower right hand corner of the photo. Remember that the airliner was an American Airlines aircraft that are bright silver in color. Compare and contrast between frames 1 and 2 and you'll see the aircraft. It's also blury at best because the plane was moving at between 350 and 400mph, and the security camera is focused on a driveway entrance some 500+ feet from the impact area. The five photos are frames from the security camera video.

The aircraft came over the top of the Navy Annex in controlled flight with both engines at full throttle. The plane clipped the light poles on Route 27 causing damage to some of the vehicles on the road at the time. The plane continued in controlled flight until it struck the building between the 1st and 2nd floor of the E-Ring, and at a slight left hand angle to the building's face. The plane did not hit the ground before impacting the building. NOTE: I have pictures of all I speak of, but I have no idea how to post them, and some have yet to be cleared. Also, there were dozens of eye-witnesses to the plane attack that day. You have to remember the Pentagon has 25,000 employees with many more military and civilian workers billeted at the Navy Annex, Henderson Hall, and Rosslyn. Add in the fact that South Parking is right where the attack happened, and you can see how tens of dozens of people were in transit either to and from, or in and out of the building, and who had direct eyes on the attack.

The aircraft's speed, combined with it's mass, carried it some 200+ feet through the building - through the E, D, & C Rings, with wreckage coming to rest in the A&E Drive by B Ring.

The photo in thread 58 is into the events that day as the fires have subsided some and the building is shown collapsed. Photos taken right after the attack clearly show the impact hole the plane created as it sliced through the face of the building, then took out the re-enforced concrete columns every 20 feet or so, but the face and walls of the E-Ring did not collapse for about 30 or so minutes after the impact. If you look in the lower left hand corner of the impact area in picture 58, you can see the left most portion of the impact point as the supporting face and columns of the building are gone in that impact area. The facing and walls of the E-Ring stayed up until the 1600+ degree fires basically melted the already weakened supports.

The front of the building (in post 58) is also a huge debris field, you just can't see the pieces because they are so small in relation to the depth and width of the shot.

Thank you for speaking up about this. It's incredible that an incident with so many eye-witnesses and first hand accounts could be disbelieved.

Thanks for pointing out the aircraft location in the shots. I saved both those photos and opened them up in ACDSee photoviewer, set the software to fill the screen, and then flipped back and forth between them. You can see the fuselage of the aircraft in the first shot, and in the second you can see where what remains has travelled to the building.

Thanks again.

Welcome to the non-lurker world. You are doomed now.

Great 1st post. Reasoned and informative.

I can't believe no one has welcomed you in an appropriate FReeper manner. Sheesh... .

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

I was tempted to post for the first time when the "Find the Boeing" stupidity showed up the other day and the call went out for Freeper witnesses. I didn't because I figured it was a waste of time to argue with the "bet not" crowd. But, Defender3 really struck a cord with me. I had a very small of role in helping Arlington County Government deal with this event, I am very proud of what I did. Later, I had the privilege of hearing a briefing from the Arlington County Police. Everything that Defender3 said jibed with what I experienced and what I heard from Arlington County Police and other county employees involved with the incident. The pictures that I saw clearly showed the lamp posts that Defender3 mentioned.
I know it's a lot of fun for the tin foil crowd to play this game and tweak all the squares out there, but you are doing an incredible disservice to the men, women and children who died in that fireball. Tell your theory to the burn victims, be sure to add how the truck bomb was full of aviation fuel for an added sense of realism. Wow, wouldn't that be fun? Aren't you cleaver?

I was an "ear-witness" to the attack on the Pentagon. Yes, I know how unreliable eyewitnesses can be. But you know, a lot of eyewitnesses see the sun rise from the east each morning and they're right.
I work in Arlington County. I grew up there and my parents still live in the house that I was raised in. My parents live close to the 2nd St Gate to Ft Myer (about mile and a half from the Pentagon). I was out of my office, but still in Arlington, when the WTC was hit. I headed over to my folk's house to watch the news with my dad. I saw the image of the second plane hitting the tower (the video where it looks like a shadow). The image had just begun to register with me when a large commercial airliner flew very low and very fast over our neighborhood. The sound of the engines being throttled up was unmistakable. My first thought was don't get jumpy at every noise, there is no way that it is a plane crashing. For a moment, I though that it was heading to Reagan National, that it was one of the flights that was being ordered to land and it was coming in a hurry. However, within just a few seconds I heard the explosion. I can still hear the plane. I can still hear the explosion. Almost immediately WMAL (local radio) had people calling in from their cell phones saying that had just seen the plane and explosion. Hundreds of people saw and heard this happen. No one says they saw a truck bomb.

As for the truck bomb story...All that morning local TV reported that a car bomb had exploded outside the State Department building in DC. I found that a lot of my co-workers were still wondering a couple of days later why there was no mention of damage from that attack. The answer was simple, because the report was flat out wrong. So, I guess to prove what an intellectual I am, I'm supposed to entertain the idea that while everyone was looking at the Pentagon, the world's greatest carpenters and masons swooped in and rebuilt the place, paid off all the witnesses, swept the street and replaced all the news anchors with cyborgs programmed to never mention the incident. I can hear the enlightened ones now - "PROVE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!"