Pentagon Releases 5 Security Camera Pics of Plane Hitting Pentagon

FOX News ^ | March 7, 2002 | John Gibson

[codebreaker]

Just saw them on air, you can see the tail of the plane in the 2nd photo.

[angcat]

oh your kidding................ignorance is bliss....................

[angcat]

how come i never get pinged.......... thanks.......

[BraveMan]

(Almost) Totally off-topic bump . . .

If you want your PC's clock to more accurate than your average Pentagon Security Camera Timestamp, you should check out the NIST Internet Time Service.

[sarasmom]

Just to weigh in,and I apologise since I didnt read the entire post. Video time codes, utilised in CCTV(security cameras)depend on the recording VTR-not the camera.It does not mean the correct "time" will play-back on a particular video track.

Gads!The published copy of the tape assigned its own time line!

It is a matter of sequential stills.It is very hard, if not impossible,to edit an original tape, and conceal the edit.Live video is about 30 frames per second.Security systems record generally at 15 FPS,mostly less.

Now all the tin foilers have a thumbnail explanation for the government cover-up.A plane crashed into the Pentagon.

[Cvengr]

I'll take your word on it. I'm unable to identify the object from the photos, but I wouldn't label it an unidentified flying object, if for no other reason to avoid unnecessary conspiracy theory.

[Not now, Not ever!]

Most of these cameras use lenses that have an automatic iris, Especialy those viewing an out door image.

It controls the amount of light seen by the camera, So as not to flood out the image or cause it to be to dark.

some of them are sensitive to both visible light and infrared.

After the fuel ignition there would have been a very large spike in infrared energy that may have caused the iris to close down, darkening the image in visible light.

To see this effect, point your TV remote at a video camera and push a button while watching the image the camera sees, you will see the IR sender in the remote as a white light, But the camera doesn't know the difference.

[Aurelius]

BUMP

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Interesting site. If this flight didn't hit the Pentagon, then where did it and all of its occupants go? The Bermuda Triangle?

[demdesur]

Finally a decent question. I bet Barbara Olson is alive in some shadow government office (I fully realize how stupid this sounds). Ted was totally unconvincing after her death and is now hanging out with some 25 year old doll... not exactly what you would expect. As for the rest of the listed passengers... I'd have to go through each one individually but this question is the common sense achilles heal of saying a plane didn't hit the Pentagon. Having said that I still think no plane hit the Pentagon and the Olson stuff was all a good show.

[CalConservative]

Someone put up a picture of the Pentagon with the plane sticking out of it, something that clearly shows the plane or part of it.

While I'm inclined to believe that the plane did hit the Pentagon, I really find it hard to believe there are no photos which show the recognizable remnants of an airplane at the Pentagon crash site. What gives??

[Tennessee_Bob]

What happened?

High speed impact of fragile aluminum aircraft with sixty year old good old American stonework masonry. The holes the aircraft created in the rings also contribute to the destruction of the A/C itself.

[abner]

Welcome to the non-lurker world. You are doomed now.

Great 1st post. Reasoned and informative.

I can't believe no one has welcomed you in an appropriate FReeper manner. Sheesh... .

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

[Callahan]

I just saw a thread on DU (I know, I'll scour my eyeballs with bleach before I go to bed) where the DUmmies put on their tin foil hats and theorize that the Bush administration faked a plane hitting the Pentagon. No joke. No rational explanation is given as to a) what the hell happened to the plane, and b) why the hell would Bush would want to blow up his military headquarters. A more rational liberal voice chimed in and said that the Bushies were planting wacky tin foil hat theories on left-wing websites in order to make Democrats look ridiculous. Not worth the time guys, you do that on your own.

[Ipberg]

The planes that hit the World Trade Centre disintegrated in flames too, just like the ones that crashed into the Pentagon and Pennsylvanian soil. Unless there's live video of the latter crashes just as there's video of the first two the conspiracy nuts won't be convinced despite the evidence. I'm surprised they haven't tied this into TWA 800 or the ValuJet crashes yet...

[abner]

Begala probably posts over there and put up that post to say what he would like to say on TV, but knows it would never fly. The left wingers are more tinfoil than anyone over here. At least our kooks come up with plausible stuff. LOL!

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

I know the mother of one of the victims on that plane, who had left her JAG job to take on the college womens gymnastics coaching job out in California. Read on, MacDuff!

http://www.mari-rae.net/
http://www.arlingtoncemetery.com/mrsopper.htm

[Fry]

I was tempted to post for the first time when the "Find the Boeing" stupidity showed up the other day and the call went out for Freeper witnesses. I didn't because I figured it was a waste of time to argue with the "bet not" crowd. But, Defender3 really struck a cord with me. I had a very small of role in helping Arlington County Government deal with this event, I am very proud of what I did. Later, I had the privilege of hearing a briefing from the Arlington County Police. Everything that Defender3 said jibed with what I experienced and what I heard from Arlington County Police and other county employees involved with the incident. The pictures that I saw clearly showed the lamp posts that Defender3 mentioned.
I know it's a lot of fun for the tin foil crowd to play this game and tweak all the squares out there, but you are doing an incredible disservice to the men, women and children who died in that fireball. Tell your theory to the burn victims, be sure to add how the truck bomb was full of aviation fuel for an added sense of realism. Wow, wouldn't that be fun? Aren't you cleaver?

I was an "ear-witness" to the attack on the Pentagon. Yes, I know how unreliable eyewitnesses can be. But you know, a lot of eyewitnesses see the sun rise from the east each morning and they're right.
I work in Arlington County. I grew up there and my parents still live in the house that I was raised in. My parents live close to the 2nd St Gate to Ft Myer (about mile and a half from the Pentagon). I was out of my office, but still in Arlington, when the WTC was hit. I headed over to my folk's house to watch the news with my dad. I saw the image of the second plane hitting the tower (the video where it looks like a shadow). The image had just begun to register with me when a large commercial airliner flew very low and very fast over our neighborhood. The sound of the engines being throttled up was unmistakable. My first thought was don't get jumpy at every noise, there is no way that it is a plane crashing. For a moment, I though that it was heading to Reagan National, that it was one of the flights that was being ordered to land and it was coming in a hurry. However, within just a few seconds I heard the explosion. I can still hear the plane. I can still hear the explosion. Almost immediately WMAL (local radio) had people calling in from their cell phones saying that had just seen the plane and explosion. Hundreds of people saw and heard this happen. No one says they saw a truck bomb.

As for the truck bomb story...All that morning local TV reported that a car bomb had exploded outside the State Department building in DC. I found that a lot of my co-workers were still wondering a couple of days later why there was no mention of damage from that attack. The answer was simple, because the report was flat out wrong. So, I guess to prove what an intellectual I am, I'm supposed to entertain the idea that while everyone was looking at the Pentagon, the world's greatest carpenters and masons swooped in and rebuilt the place, paid off all the witnesses, swept the street and replaced all the news anchors with cyborgs programmed to never mention the incident. I can hear the enlightened ones now - "PROVE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!"

[William Terrell]

In fact, it is just as likely -- more likely -- that the witness was right all along and the lawyer has simply twisted the witness' testimony into knots.

You can tell the difference. There's alway the nest of shysters, but most of 'em are pretty decent and do their jobs as best they can. Even though they are all too damn expensive.

[William Terrell]

Ok with me.

[sungkathak]

Why release the picture so later. It seems there is no reason to keep it secret.