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To: woollyone
Well, of course you're right. There's no need for a fitness check in the million monkeys example, which is why the million monkeys example is a flawed example if we want to understand evolution. If you want to go back and read my post #63, you'll see how we could introduce a fitness check into the million monkeys example.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback - you've highlighted exactly what's wrong with this article ;)

130 posted on 03/05/2002 3:13:47 PM PST by general_re
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To: general_re
There's no need for a fitness check in the million monkeys example, which is why the million monkeys example is a flawed example if we want to understand evolution

What a silly comment! The monkey scenario is a case in statistical probability alone, dreamed up by the evos in an attempt to demonstrate that given enough time, order can randomly develop out of disorder. Period! And the monkey/typwriter was dreamed up by the evos! Don't blame me! You see the evos say; "well...given enough time..." They constantly have had to lengthen the alleged time because science keeps showing that they haven't factored in enough time for their fanciful notions to occur in light of the statistical probabilities...What is it now...like 15 billion years?...in a few more years, they'll claim 30 billion. The typing monkleys proves another point at which the evos are mistaken. You are essentially doing the same thing, though instead of adding years, you now want to add preferred qualifiers. Sorry, you can't make up the rules as you go, to suit your posture. "Fitness" has NOTHING to do with the typing monkyes!

There isnt' enough and never has been enough time for the events that the evos propose to have come into being without intellegent intervention!

Now, you see that your coveted typing-monkey-myth has been debunked, you feel the need to change the variables. Typical evo!

You talk high and mighty about "fitness", so as long as you bring it up, please explain how half-transition mutations are "fitter" to survive, than their non-mutant brethren! Truth is, they aren't. And they don't, of their own accord set off to correct their mutations to be more fit. The probability of a mutation being beneficial is so tiny as to be laughable...the for that mutation to reproduce, it would need to find another mutaied individual to breed with and then have another beneficial mutaion and then each mutation has to find another of it's kind. It's all a bunch of so much nonsense!

...on second thought...don't tell me. I've never cred for fairy tales.

LIke I posted a few days ago...
Ask evos why we don't see macro-evolution today and the response is; "because it takes a loooooong time".
Ask them why we don't find the plethora of transition fossils and they say; "because it happened quickly".

Welcome to universe-worshiping doublespeak

143 posted on 03/05/2002 3:36:39 PM PST by woollyone
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