I will as soon as you cite the specific scripture where Jesus expressly states, "All infants are part of the elect and go to heaven when they die."
- I freely admit that Jesus does not ever say that "all who die in infancy are elect". Although I have not lied, for I never claimed that He said this.
- Now, you must freely admit that Jesus does not say "Infants are Innocent". Oh, and that you have lied, for you claimed that Jesus said this.
That said, we now acknowledge that Scripture NEVER states that "those who die in infancy are elect", or that "Infants are innocent".
- Therefore, if there exists a Scripture which states, "some/all who die in infancy are Damned", then my inferential interpretation that "those who die in infancy are Elect" must be disregarded in favor of the explicit word of Scripture.
- Likewise, if there exists a Scripture which states, "all have sinned", then your inferential beliefs that "infants are innocent" must be disregarded in favor of the explicit word of Scripture.
- The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. (Psalm 58:3)
- For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (Romans 3:23)
- Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and also death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Romans 5:12)
And I asked you this last night and I'm still waiting. My question precedes yours. WHERE IS MY SCRIPTURE?
Ahem:
- I freely admit that Jesus does not ever say that "all who die in infancy are elect". Although I have not lied, for I never claimed that He said this.
- Now, you must freely admit that Jesus does not say "Infants are Innocent". Oh, and that you have lied, for you claimed that Jesus said this.
That said, we now acknowledge that Scripture NEVER states that "those who die in infancy are elect", or that "Infants are innocent".
- Therefore, if there exists a Scripture which states, "some/all who die in infancy are Damned", then my inferential interpretation that "those who die in infancy are Elect" must be disregarded in favor of the explicit word of Scripture.
- Likewise, if there exists a Scripture which states, "all have sinned", then your inferential beliefs that "infants are innocent" must be disregarded in favor of the explicit word of Scripture.
- The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. (Psalm 58:3)
- For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (Romans 3:23)
- Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and also death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Romans 5:12)
You "LIE" ABOUT THE WORDS OF JESUS according to your definition of lie. (In my definition, you simply have a faulty interpretation, but then again, Arminians believe in exercising grace not just talking about it.)
Nope. I never lied.
I never claimed that Jesus "declared all who die in infancy are elect". Why? 'Cause he never did say these words.
You, however, did claim that Jesus "declared infants are innocent", despite the fact that Jesus never once said these words.
You knew that Jesus never once said these words... and yet, you lied.
About the very Words of the Son, you lied.
To protect your religious "beliefs" from the hard truths of the Bible, you lied.
Hmmmmmmmm........
This is all such a silly debate. What's the meaning of "say" with all it's colloquial, derivative usages? I honestly believe you're being stubborn and sitting there smiling to yourself as you post picky arguments.
What sin has your infant committed?