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Hi, Ortho. Glad to see you back. What time did you get to bed last night. I rolled about 3 eastern. Insomnia or just your pattern?

Come on, bud, you know that it isn't a lie if it's what I believe. You could call it wrong, misguided, silly, etc., but it isn't a lie.

Also, we went over this last night. Should we just copy/paste all we said then? Make it easier for my typing hand.

BTW, you owe me some editing on the definitions.

Come on, bud, you know that it isn't a lie if it's what I believe. You could call it wrong, misguided, silly, etc., but it isn't a lie.

Yes, it is a lie. It is a lie about the words of Jesus.

This is what you said: "Jesus declared infants innocent."
Now, cite the specific scripture where Jesus expressly states, "Infants are innocent of Sin".

If you can't, you are lying. You are putting words into Jesus' mouth, unless you can cite a scripture where Jesus expressly and specifically states, "infants are innocent".

And to place your words in Jesus' mouth, is Blasphemy against the Son.

I don't tell lies about the Calvinist Doctrine of Infant Salvation. I don't claim that "Jesus declared that all who die in infancy go to heaven", because He did not ever say those words, anywhere in Scripture.
Yet you will tell lies that "Jesus declared infants are innocent", despite the fact that He did not ever say those words, anywhere in Scripture.

You are willing to tell lies about the Son Himself for the sake of protecting your religious "beliefs". Hmmmmmmmm.....

BTW, you owe me some editing on the definitions.

Only when you offer an OBJECTION to the Calvinist Doctrine of Total Depravity.

As you have worded it, your statement of the matter only reinforces Calvinism:

Total Depravity means that Natural Man is totally sinful AND HE CAN ONLY ever WANT in his own spirit to know Christ DUE TO GOD'S foreplanned divine intervention and preceding divine grace. The man's heart is like channels of water in the hand of the Lord; God turns it wherever He wishes.

I'm sorry, but that's a very Calvinist statement. Did you have an objection to the Calvinist Doctrine of Total Depravity, perchance? Any?