[RnMomof7]

If these arminians insist that we Calvinists really believe what logic requires of us, then I insist that they argue that we do not also believe in the Trinity, Creation out of Nothing, The resurrection of Christ, The incarnation of Christ...for when one considers logic in these doctrines, how can they be?

bingo!" how can it be that Oh my God has died for me?" Yep no logic there!

[Ward Smythe]

From #195: If these arminians insist that we Calvinists...

You guys are even arrogant with your capitalization.

Jean needs to point out where Arminius, Wesley or anyone of us has said "Buh-Bye" to anything on the list.

Otherwise it's a misrepresentation. Something, of course, none of you calvinists would ever accuse the Arminians of doing.

[SKempis]

<Sigh> The difference is so simple.

Those things are easy for us to accept because they do not contradict the attributes of God as written in scripture.

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