[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

#177 -- As for myself, I have never liked the term "Limited Atonement". The Atonement is, as the Calvinist Boettner has upheld, "strictly an infinite transaction".

I prefer the term "Limited Redemption", for God has only predestined to irresistibly cause a limited number of people to repent and be redeemed.. The Atoning Blood certainly suffices for Joseph Stalin, but it was never intended to apply to the Sins of Joseph Stalin. The Father knew full well that He had not chosen to elect Stalin to have his personality unilaterally re-engineered by the Spirit ("regenerated") so that he would Want to Repent; as such, God caused it to be certain, before Stalin was ever born, that Stalin never would repent.

And Jesus, the Son of God, certainly did not go to the Cross under the delusion that He was dying to give Stalin "a chance". Statistically speaking, Stalin had precisely a zero percent chance of Repenting from before the foundation of the world, because the Father had specifically predestined Stalin to Not Repent.

So while the Atonement (being an infinite transaction) was sufficient for Stalin, God certainly never intended that it should be efficacious to him.

[Jerry_M]

Been busy lately brother?

[Jerry_M]

Your use of Joseph Stalin made we think of this:

If an Arminian preached to Stalin (for which he would have probably been shot), and said "Comrade Stalin, Jesus died for your sins", and a Calvinist preached to Stalin (for which he too would have probably been shot) and said "Comrade Stalin, Jesus died for sinners", which one would have told the truth, in the end analysis?

[Ward Smythe]

And Jesus, the Son of God, certainly did not go to the Cross under the delusion that He was dying to give Stalin "a chance". Statistically speaking, Stalin had precisely a zero percent chance of Repenting from before the foundation of the world, because the Father had specifically predestined Stalin to Not Repent.

So God is responsible for the evil of the Soviet Union?
God is responsible for Hitler?
God is responsible for 9-11?
For Osama Bin Laden?

[RnMomof7]

Ping to ya brother good to " see " you