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To: Ward Smythe; CCWoody; RnMomof7; xzins; ShadowAce; forthedeclaration; Jerry_M...
To all who enter here:

I have been accused of being unequally yoked with the Mormons since I happen to agree with WhiteMountain that Calvinism is a horrid theology.

Let me state here and now, Mormonism is worse. I believe their teachings are false. I believe they will lead true believers astray.

BUT THE FACT IS: - The do possess some of the truth. However warped we may view it, however misguided they may be, they do hold some spiritual truths that would be in agreement with all of us on this board.

The Calvinists are just smarting because WM and I have problems with Calvinist theology.

Perhaps most telling of all is that it doesn't seem to bother the Mormon that I'm in agreement with the Calvinists concerning Mormonism.

However, this has never been a discussion of Mormonism. This was a discussion concerning truth.

We know the Calvinists believe they have it all.

That doesn't mean that no one else has any of it.

1,211 posted on 03/03/2002 11:31:04 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: Ward Smythe;CCWoody; Jerry_M
Perhaps most telling of all is that it doesn't seem to bother the Mormon that I'm in agreement with the Calvinists concerning Mormonism.

That does not impress God

WM is glad for any Christian ally he gets..

Watch your mail Ward...you could be a publisher clearing house winner:>)

1,213 posted on 03/03/2002 11:35:17 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Ward Smythe; Jerry_M; RnMomof7; la$tminutepardon
BUT THE FACT IS: - The do possess some of the truth. However warped we may view it, however misguided they may be, they do hold some spiritual truths that would be in agreement with all of us on this board.

So, what you are telling me is that if Mormonism is likened to brownies, then who cares if they are full of poison. I'll tell you what, if you really want to hide with this argument:

I'm gonna make you brownies with only 1 "secret" ingredient: ONE BIG FAT FETID COW PATTIE. Now, do you want to even be near my brownies, or would you throw them away as fast as you can.
Now, I happen to regard the "partial truth" argument in the same way; A PILE OF BULL.

The Calvinists are just smarting because WM and I have problems with Calvinist theology.

To be quite honest with you, the only sleep I have lost lately was worrying about what my pastor would say when I told him my theology last Monday at lunch.

1,217 posted on 03/03/2002 11:47:47 AM PST by CCWoody
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To: Ward Smythe,White Mountain, Xzins, shadowace, winstonchurchill,aruanan
have been accused of being unequally yoked with the Mormons since I happen to agree with WhiteMountain that Calvinism is a horrid theology.

You also? Calvinists do not understand that their system is not biblical but philosophical and therefore open to criticism by anyone. The final appeal to the 'secret councils' is not an appeal to scripture but an 'appeal to authority' which can be questioned by anyone.

Let me state here and now, Mormonism is worse. I believe their teachings are false. I believe they will lead true believers astray.

I agree. Calvinists are at least saved (hopefully).

BUT THE FACT IS: - The do possess some of the truth. However warped we may view it, however misguided they may be, they do hold some spiritual truths that would be in agreement with all of us on this board.

I would not say 'spiritual' truths, but natural ones (Rom.2:15)

The Calvinists are just smarting because WM and I have problems with Calvinist theology.

Amen!

Perhaps most telling of all is that it doesn't seem to bother the Mormon that I'm in agreement with the Calvinists concerning Mormonism. However, this has never been a discussion of Mormonism. This was a discussion concerning truth.

Amen!

We know the Calvinists believe they have it all.

Amen!

That doesn't mean that no one else has any of it.

A theological system must deal with the problem of evil ( not make God the creator of it for some 'secret reason'.

The theist must so structure a theology as to contain views of God, evil and human freedom which, when put together do not contradict each other. In particular, theists must avoid a system in which God is said to be both good and able to remove evil, despite the system's admission of the existence of evil.Such a system will most assuredly succumb to its problem of evil.(Concise Evangelical Dictinary of Theology,p.168)
Thus, since Calvinism does not make its final appeal to the scriptures but to a mysterious God who (despite depicted otherwise in Scripture) has made by His directive will every. evil act in history happen to bring about His own Glory, even unbelievers can question the reasoning behind such a system.
1,251 posted on 03/03/2002 2:22:48 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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