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To: alpowolf
Good morning. =) To you, I'm sure it is. To me it is not. I decide what I think and feel, about women or anything else.

Moral absolutes come from God. By an honest examination of your conscience one can determine truths--provided one uses the conscience on a regular basis. Concrete reality does exist. Every argument made to me on this thread has been from a subjective argument, which denies concrete reality and instead plays into the "if it feels good it must be right" syndrome.

I restate that porn denegrates the sacredness of sex, marriage, and human life; it transforms sex and the communion of life and love within the sacrament of matrimony to simply a tool of masturbatory and voyeuristic gratification. It reduces sex to recreation and human beings with special dignity to mere playthings or sex machines.

And yes, one must take responsibility for one's actions and behaviors. However, words and ideas mean things and have power and influence. And actions have consequences. These are common-sense principles.

142 posted on 02/21/2002 4:31:10 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
By an honest examination of your conscience one can determine truths--provided one uses the conscience on a regular basis

Exactly--by an honest examination of my conscience. And yes, I use it.

I restate that porn denegrates...

Simply restating it over and over doesn't answer the mail. I understand that you're thoroughly and sincerely convinced. But that doesn't mean it's a "concrete moral truth".

And before you say it, no, I am not a relativist. But some things are relative. The way you dress now would have been considered scandalous (pornographic in fact) in 1800. When I learned how to waltz, I found it to be a beautiful, romantic dance. That's not how it was viewed when it was introduced. It was considered vulgar and scandalous--the man (gasp!) touched his partner! You know what that leads to!

Much of what is called "fine arts" today was considered low and vulgar when first introduced.

When Ben Franklin invented the lightening rod, he was condemned by many religious leaders for "interfering with God's will" (I am always amused when I hear someone suggest that a mortal man can thwart an omnipotent God). I have little doubt that they considered that a "concrete moral truth". What say you? Was Ben in league with Satan?

149 posted on 02/21/2002 8:24:21 AM PST by alpowolf
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