Skip to comments.A Little Secret About the Nazis (They were left-wing socialists like the modern left of today)
Posted on 02/18/2002 2:19:04 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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I think that's a safe bet although he was not week-kneed about the use of force, I doubt he ever envisioned it on a scale of Stalin, Mao or Hitler.
Marx was actually an interesting person. He was like a half baked doctor in many ways. He was excellent at diagnosing the aliment. He had that part right a lot. The part he had trouble with was the cure. His prescriptions ended up killing the patient.
America's Left is no different in aim or outcome. War is coming...
"The Party is all-embracing. It rules our lives in all their breadth and depth. We must therefore develop branches of the Party in which the whole of individual life will be reflected. Each activity and each need of the individual will thereby be regulated by the Party as the representative of the general good. There will be no license, no free space, in which the individual belongs to himself. This is Socialism - not such trifles as the private means of production. Of what importance is that if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the Party, is supreme over them, regardless whether they are owners or workers. All that, you see, is unessential. Our Socialism goes far deeper..."
"The people about us are unaware of what is really happening to them. The gaze fascinated at one or two superficialities, such as possessions and income or rank and other outworn conceptions. As long as these are kept intact, they are quite satisfied. But in the meantime, they have entered a new relation; a powerful social force has caught them up. They themselves are changed. What are ownership and income to that? Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings."
Adolph Hitler - Rauschning, The Voice of Destruction pp 191-193
But don't hold your breath this sham will be uncovered and rectified. Too many people have too much at stake in the deception to allow that to happen.
I guess it depends on what the meaning of "the human basis of his religion" is. What does that phrase mean? If "the human basis" of the Jewish religion is corrupt, isn't that the same thing as saying Judaism is corrupt?
It's a compendium of scholarly essays by a dozen or more French scholars, a few of them Jewish, recounting in lengthy, scholarly, and nauseating detail the triumph of Bolschevism during the Twentieth Century and its murder, by one means or another (not counting combat casualties, either) of over 100 million people.
In it, the extended role, (out of all proportion to their numerical presence in Russian society), of Jews in the Russian revolution and the following decades, is recounted.
It should not be considered by a rational person as anti-Semitic to note these data, since all of them, or nearly all of them, come from the essays by Jewish scholars themselves.
But it is mentioned more than once how the post-WWII European and American Left were at huge pains to paint German Naziism and Italian Fascism as phenomena of the RIGHT, whatever that might actually be, and to associate them closely with Republican Oibertarianism, or Liberal Democracy, or however you care to designate the political beliefs and practices of the American Founding Fathers.
This book should be required reading in all American universities, and yet you will not find it in more than a tenth or less, of our academic libraries.
It's huge, detailed, and its references along account for a probably a quarter or more of its volume.
If you can find it, read it. I haven't checked Amazon yet since I ordered it from England via Barnes & Noble.
Received it from the hands of an elderly British Lefty crone, who could not disguise her contempt for the idea of listing Leftist crimes.
"Perhaps we should have a Black Book of Capitalism?" she sneered when I expressed my eagerness to get started on it.
English Lefties are far far more obnoxious than our brand, since they don't stop short going all the way.
But the Fiction of "Right-Wing Totalitarianism" persists, and God only knows when this straight-jacket for the mind will finally be shed.
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War is coming...We're already at war. As for the relationship between fascism and the political left, I need no convincing. I agree with you. I've read FA Hayek's Road to Serfdom and Hannah Arendt's Totalitarianism and Eatwell's Fascism; A History and Laquer's Fascism, Past, Present, and Future etc. and I agree with them. Well, most of them.
Again, what is "the empirical essence of Judaism?" How can Marx say "the empirical essence of Judaism" is "huckstering," and not be attacking Judaism?
I've seen it in bookstores before. You can get any newly published hard-to-find book at Amazon.com (or Borders.com, or Barnes and Noble.com, etc.). And if you don't want to order over the internet, you can go into any bookstore, and have them place an order for you, they're happy to do it.
I guess it depends on what the meaning of "the human basis of his religion" is. What does that phrase mean? If "the human basis" of the Jewish religion is corrupt, isn't that the same thing as saying Judaism is corrupt?Here is what you don't understand. Marx at this point in his development based most of his thinking about religion on Feuerbach, another left Hegelian. One of Feuerbach's principal theses was simply that every statement we made about God was really an inverted claim about our own social lives--religion was not about heaven, but an expression of the human condition (or "human basis"). Yes. Marx believed Judaism was corrupt; but he believed all religion was corrupt. He never advocated the liquidation of the Jews.
It has been said that Nazism is not a philosophy but a passion for destruction. Destruction, however, cannot be achieved with the Nazi consistency or on the Nazi scale, except by means of a certain philosophy and as an expression of it. It has been said that the Nazis are not ideologists, but power lusters. In fact, they are power lusters whose power depends on a specific ideology. It has been said that the Nazis are not thinkers but criminals. The truth is that they are criminals spawned by thinkers, i.e., philosophically produced criminals which is what gave them the kind of world-historical role denied to any plain criminal.And we're losing the battle, folks, in every area that really counts. The war is yet to be fought.
The intellectuals of the West today (as at the time as Hitler) are a product of the same philosophical trend. Most of them, still reflecting some remnant of a better past, condemn the actions of Hitler, while advocating the same basic ideas that he did (though in different variants). Such men are helpless to understand Nazism or to explain its emergence or to fight it. They purport to find the roots of Nazism in anything in any practical crisis or any crackpot ideologue buried in the interstices of German history in anything except fundamental philosophical ideas, the ones openly championed all around us, the ones they themselves share. Then they are forced to admit that by their account the rise of Nazism is inexplicable.
One such scholar, after presenting Nazism as an outlandish version of a narrow 19th century political theory (Social Darwinism), concludes as follows: But that such a collection of ideas could capture the allegiance of millions of rational men and women will perhaps remain always something of a mystery. If his account of the Nazi ideology were true, the success of Nazism would be more than something of a mystery. it would be wholly unintelligible.
No weird cultural aberration produced Nazism. No intellectual lunatic fringe miraculously overwhelmed a civilized country. It is modern philosophy not some peripheral aspect of it, but the most central of its mainstreams which turned the Germans into a nation of killers.
The land of poets and philosophers was brought down by its poets and philosophers.
Twice in our century Germany fought to rule and impose its culture on the rest of the world. It lost both wars. But on a deeper level it is achieving its goal nevertheless. It is on the verge of winning the philosophical war against the West, with everything this implies.
The ideas of German philosophy have long since jumped national borders and become the trend of the West. Half the countries of Europe are already enslaved by such ideas. The rest of the continent, under similar guidance, is on the point of collapse.
There is only one country that, though paralyzed at present, is still able to resist the German takeover. In all history, it is the least likely candidate for such a takeover, if it can regain its own ideas and its self-esteem in time. The last great battle of the war of the century is now taking place in the last of the great, unconquered nations left on earth.
Leonard Peikoff, The Ominous Parallels, pp 97-99
The nazi's are the left wings dream team. Total state control-cradle to grave.
I know that if anyone were to ask hillary clinton if she thought a national work force uniform would be a good idea, she would probably laugh it off with some difficulty because I know, as sure as I know this woman is a marxist thru and thru, that she would LOVE to see this nation in a standard uniform, happy little worker bees dancing for their queen (oh yeah....yeah baby....for sure!).
Hillary, ya know, likes things, ya know, equal. Ya know. Like, REALLY EQUAL. Ya know, except, ya know, well, when it comes to, ya know, herself. Then stealing state items is ok because, ya know, she is, ya know, WORTH IT! Ya know?
Again, what is "the empirical essence of Judaism?" How can Marx say "the empirical essence of Judaism" is "huckstering," and not be attacking Judaism?You changed your position. And I never said Marx wasn't attacking Judaism. (He attacks every religion!) The empirical essense of Judiasm for Marx were the objective-material conditions of exploitation and suffering that made any religion necessary. That sort of thing. Marx never advocates liquidating the Jews.
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